OnTheIssues Analysis of Trump Policies: Libertarian-Leaning Conservative

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

There has been a lot of discussion of Trumps actual leanings and labels. This is an objective analysis,easy to read and you can put your own stances in and get currently candidate matches historical president stances etc. Its cool. Anyway: Donald Trump on the Issues The link shows his stances throughout the years and and another link within objectively scores them (hyperlink provided). The years and dates of the statements are provided on the site as well.

Donald Trump is a Libertarian-Leaning Conservative.

The candidate scored the following on the VoteMatch questions:

Social Score 28%
Economic Score 75%

Social Score

This measures how much the candidate believes government should intervene in people's personal lives or on social issues. These issues include health, morality, love, recreation, prayer and other activities that are not measured in dollars.

• A high score (above 60%) means the candidate believes in tolerance for different people and lifestyles.
• A low score (below 40%) means the candidate believes that standards of morality & safety should be enforced by government.

Economic Score

This measures how much the candidate believes government should intervene in people's economic lives. Economic issues include retirement funding, budget allocations, and taxes.

• A high score (above 60%) means the candidate believes in personal responsibility for financial matters, and that free-market competition is better for people than central planning by the government.
• A low score (below 40%) means the candidate believes that a good society is best achieved by the government redistributing wealth. The candidate believes that government's purpose is to decide which programs are good for society, and how much should be spent on each program.

"Many of these statements cross over the line between social issues and economic issues. And many people might answer what we call a "Social" issue based on economic reasoning. But we have tried to arrange a series of questions which separates the way candidates think about government activities in these two broad scales."

heres an example of his stances

Opposes Topic 5:
Expand ObamaCare
(+2 points on Economic scale)

Replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts: Strongly Opposes topic 5
We didn't have a free market before ObamaCare: Opposes topic 5
ObamaCare is a catastrophe that must be repealed & replaced: Strongly Opposes topic 5
Don't cut Medicare; grow the economy to keep benefits: Favors topic 5
ObamaCare deductibles are so high that it's useless: Strongly Opposes topic 5
Save Medicare & Medicaid without cutting them to the bone: Favors topic 5
Kill ObamaCare before it becomes a trillion-ton weight: Strongly Opposes topic 5
Increase insurance competition across state lines: Strongly Opposes topic 5
We must have universal health care (1991): Strongly Favors topic 5​

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Health_Care.htm#1​

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Click here for 20 full quotes on War & Peace OR other candidates on War & Peace OR background on War & Peace.

• Assad is a bad guy, but his replacement could be worse. (Nov 2015)
• Let Russia make moves in Syria; it's a quagmire. (Nov 2015)
• Strengthen military, but act defensively. (Oct 2015)
• Good that Russia has entered Syrian conflict. (Oct 2015)
• Radical violent Islam that must be feared, not Islam itself. (Sep 2015)
• I'm pro-military but I opposed invading Iraq in 2003. (Sep 2015)
• If Obama had attacked Syria, we wouldn't have refugees now. (Sep 2015)
• Opposed Iraq war in 2004 & predicted Mideast destabilization. (Aug 2015)
• Disgraceful deal gives Iran a lot & gets nothing for us. (Aug 2015)
• Bomb the oil fields in Iraq to take on ISIS. (Jun 2015)
• Boots on the ground to fight ISIS. (Jun 2015)
• I said "don't hit Iraq," because it destabilized Middle East. (Jun 2015)
• Hit ISIS hard and fast. (Feb 2015)
• Take $1.5T in oil from Iraq to pay for US victims. (Mar 2013)
• Iraq should pick up the tab for their own liberation. (Dec 2011)
• Stop Iran's nuclear programs by any & all means necessary. (Dec 2011)
• John McCain's actions in Vietnam were not "heroic". (Sep 2000)
• Use force to stop North Korean nuke development. (Jul 2000)
• Support Israel, our unsinkable Mideast aircraft carrier. (Jul 2000)
• No humanitarian intervention; only to direct threats. (Jul 2000)

Click here for 18 full quotes on Tax Reform OR other candidates on Tax Reform OR background on Tax Reform.

• Cut taxes by $10T but don't increase deficit. (Oct 2015)
• Repeal estate tax; it's double taxation. (Oct 2015)
• Estate tax is unfair double taxation. (Oct 2015)
• Do away with carried interest; it's unfair. (Oct 2015)
• OpEd AdWatch: Trump more liberal on taxes than Democrats. (Sep 2015)
• FactCheck: Proposed 14% tax on wealthy in 2000, but not now. (Sep 2015)
• No net increase in taxes, but increases on wealthy. (Sep 2015)
• Raise graduated taxes on hedge fund managers. (Sep 2015)
• One-time 14% tax on wealthy to pay down national debt. (Jun 2015)
• 4 brackets; 1-5-10-15%; kill death tax & corporate tax. (Dec 2011)
• Cutting tax rates incentivizes a strong national work ethic. (Dec 2011)
• Previously supported wealth tax; now supports Bush tax cuts. (Apr 2011)
• Repeal the inheritance tax to offset one-time wealth tax. (Jul 2000)
• Simplify tax code; end marriage penalty & other hidden taxes. (Jul 2000)
• Opposes flat tax; benefits wealthy too much. (Jul 2000)
• Personally avoids sales tax, but knows many people like it. (Dec 1999)
• One-time 14.25% tax on wealth, to erase national debt. (Nov 1999)
• Tax assets over $10 million, paid over 10 years. (Nov 1999)

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[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

The most interesting segment imo:

Click here for 33 full quotes on Principles & Values OR other candidates on Principles & Values OR background on Principles & Values.

• I will negotiate until American is great again. (Oct 2015)
• My old liberal political views evolved like Reagan's did. (Aug 2015)
• I want to win as a Republican, but might run as Independent. (Aug 2015)
• In NYC almost everyone is Democrat, but I'm Republican. (Aug 2015)
• Stoked Tea Party suspicions about Obama's legitimacy. (Jan 2012)
• No more morning in America; we'll be mourning FOR America. (Dec 2011)
• 5-point plan to return America to her former greatness. (Dec 2011)
• USA is the greatest force for freedom world has ever known. (Dec 2011)
• Bad students (like Obama) shouldn't go to Harvard. (Apr 2011)
• If I run & win, our country will be great again. (Feb 2011)
• Greatest fear? I don't have any; I only have "concerns". (Apr 2010)
• I'm more humble than people might think. (Apr 2010)
• 3 principles: One term, two-fisted policies, zero excuses. (Jul 2000)
• Non-politicians are the wave of the future. (Jul 2000)
• Burned by press too often to be available any more. (Jul 1990)
• Toughness is equally strength, intelligence, & self-respect. (Jul 1990)
  Business Principles
• I never forgive people who deceive me. (Oct 2015)
• I believe in the toot-your-own-horn theory. (Apr 2010)
• Build your reputation as "responsible, professional & loyal". (Apr 2010)
• Never give up; look at the solution, not the problem. (Jan 2008)
• To negotiate well, prepare and know as much as possible. (Jan 2008)
• In the best negotiations, everyone wins. (Jan 2008)
• Failure is not permanent. (Jan 2008)
• Tell people you’re successful or they won’t know it. (Mar 2004)
• Good management requires hiring good people. (Mar 2004)
• Lessons: stay focused on big picture. (Mar 2004)
• Surround yourself with people you can trust. (Mar 2004)
• In business & politics, stands for getting things done. (Jul 2000)
• Appealing to middle Americans leery of political elite. (Nov 1999)
• Rules for surviving the perils of success. (Jul 1990)
  Personal Background
• Attended military academy & Wharton Business School. (Jun 2015)
• One hour to produce my birth certificate; Obama should too. (Feb 2011)
• Separated from Ivana after long less-than-perfect marriage. (Jul 1990)

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[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

@DEAD7 @BaggerofTea

 

[BaggerofTea]

Do not take anything that Trump has said in this election cycle seriously.......

He is a master panderer and he has to pander to knuckle heads

 

[CHL]

@JahFocus CS lol at this chart and their methodology

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

@JahFocus CS lol at this chart and their methodology

do the quiz yourself, compares to everyone. I did it twice, got centrist and then a boring moderate liberal tag. They do well with other candidates based on what ive seen since 2008 and their articles are good. Trump is hard to nail down based on the years of various statements so maybe its moot for him

 

[CHL]

do the quiz yourself, compares to everyone. I did it twice, got centrist and then a boring moderate liberal tag. They do well with other candidates based on what ive seen since 2008 and their articles are good. Trump is hard to nail down based on the years of various statements so maybe its moot for him

ehhh do you have one that's more global? I mean the way they've defined libertarianism is very American-centric, for example, and overall it wasn't that in depth. This is somewhat better The Political Compass

I also didn't see any question relating to socialisms nor are they really represented in the chart

 

[soulfuljah]

do the quiz yourself, compares to everyone. I did it twice, got centrist and then a boring moderate liberal tag. They do well with other candidates based on what ive seen since 2008 and their articles are good. Trump is hard to nail down based on the years of various statements so maybe its moot for him

The issue with quizzes like this is they are too general. As someone who relates to classical liberalism, most of those questions don't really line up.

*Abortion - This is split across the board but if you believe that life starts at conception (as I do), you also have to take into account that constitutionally, that life should have the same protections as you
*Gay Marriage - Real libertarians don't care, as long as your actions don't affect anyone outside of yourself
*Legalization of drugs - See above
*Legally require the hiring of minorities and women - It's hard to answer that with just a yes or a no. I'm opposed to it, but I'm also opposed to having race, sex, or age added to an application. Those things should never play a role in the hiring process (unless deemed necessary)
*Privatization of Social Security - most who call themselves libertarians believe that social security was a horrible idea to begin with, but aren't opposed to privatization because it gives you more control of what's being taken out

 

[Tate]

All these political quizzes suck. This one strikes me as libertarian propaganda

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

ehhh do you have one that's more global? I mean the way they've defined libertarianism is very American-centric, for example, and overall it wasn't that in depth. This is somewhat better The Political Compass

I also didn't see any question relating to socialisms nor are they really represented in the chart

The issue with quizzes like this is they are too general. As someone who relates to classical liberalism, most of those questions don't really line up.

*Abortion - This is split across the board but if you believe that life starts at conception (as I do), you also have to take into account that constitutionally, that life should have the same protections as you
*Gay Marriage - Real libertarians don't care, as long as your actions don't affect anyone outside of yourself
*Legalization of drugs - See above
*Legally require the hiring of minorities and women - It's hard to answer that with just a yes or a no. I'm opposed to it, but I'm also opposed to having race, sex, or age added to an application. Those things should never play a role in the hiring process (unless deemed necessary)
*Privatization of Social Security - most who call themselves libertarians believe that social security was a horrible idea to begin with, but aren't opposed to privatization because it gives you more control of what's being taken out

All these political quizzes suck. This one strikes me as libertarian propaganda

He has many anti-libertarian core policies..i think the end chart was essentially the aggregate of where he landed. further, trump obviously prioritizes certain things more than others which cannot be taken into account...and also, his prior stance of universal health care (1990) counts in his leanings..that shifted him a tad left on the chart too.

You can take historical quizzes based on stance too. So, for instance, I was also doing one compared to supreme court justices here, big city mayors etc. Its far from perfect, obviously, but I really doubt that website has all that much bias. Plus its not even an article, it was me compiling some of the stuff I checked on Trump that I thought was relevant since a bunch here are trying to figure out where exactly he leans. This was the most simple way of displaying one possible analysis. Was put out there as food for thought.

Even if you remove yourself, you can compare Trump to Hillary and just stay within the American political sphere..which would seem more 'accurate' @Darth Humanist We've had this mini convo before about labels..it was regarding the leanings of our media here and you didnt see msnbc as very liberal or whatever, but it certainly is considered as such here.

 

[Atlrocafella]

Once Trump gets in the WH I think he's actually going to govern from the center right. Continuing to piss off the establishment from both sides

 

[714562]

You know what isn't a Libertarian principle?

Building a border wall -- the one issue excluded from your little quiz and the main factor in Trump's ascendency.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

You know what isn't a Libertarian principle?

Building a border wall -- the one issue excluded from your little quiz and the main factor in Trump's ascendency.

Way to read commie

Click here for 30 full quotes on Immigration OR other candidates on Immigration OR background on Immigration.

• No apology for banning Muslims from entering America. (Jan 2016)
• Need to keep database of Muslim refugees. (Nov 2015)
• We must stop illegal immigration; it hurts us economically. (Nov 2015)
• I don't care how they come in, if they come in legally. (Oct 2015)
• Syrian refugees are a Trojan Horse. (Oct 2015)
• Syrian refugee crisis partly our fault; but don't take any. (Oct 2015)
• We're only country dumb enough for birthright citizenship. (Sep 2015)
• Illegal immigrants populate many criminal gangs. (Sep 2015)
• This is a country where we speak English, not Spanish. (Sep 2015)
• Half of the undocumented residents in America are criminals. (Jun 2015)
• We need strong borders; we need a wall. (Feb 2015)
• Citizenship for illegal immigrants is a GOP suicide mission. (Mar 2013)
• 351,000 illegal aliens are in our prisons; costing $1.1B. (Dec 2011)
• Anchor babies were NEVER the intent of the 14th Amendment. (Dec 2011)
• Invite foreigners graduating from college to stay in US. (Dec 2011)
• Control borders; even legal immigration should be difficult. (Jul 2000)
• Limit new immigration; focus on people already here. (Dec 1999)
  Mexico
• Ship millions back to Mexico, like Eisenhower did. (Nov 2015)
• Walls on borders work; just ask Israel. (Nov 2015)
• Mexico will pay for wall, but not through tariffs. (Nov 2015)
• I can get Mexico to pay for border wall; politicians can't. (Oct 2015)
• The border wall will be well-managed and built correctly. (Aug 2015)
• We need wall on Mexican border, but ok to have a door in it. (Aug 2015)
• Mexican government is sending criminals across the border. (Aug 2015)
• Building a wall will save money because it stops bad dudes. (Jul 2015)
• OpEd: businesses & Republicans condemn anti-Mexico terms. (Jul 2015)
• Make Mexico pay for wall with severe economics. (Jun 2015)
• Mexico & Latin America send us drugs, crime, and rapists. (Jun 2015)
• Build great wall on southern border; have Mexico pay for it. (Jun 2015)
• Triple-layered fence & Predator drones on Mexican border. (Dec 2011)

 

[714562]

Way to read commie.

Way to not know how to use quotes. And even if they did include factor it in, they clearly did not weight it properly. Immigration is basically the sole reason Trump is where he is right now. And absolutely no Libertarian supports his position on immigration.

All of his other positions -- cut taxes, repeal Obamacare -- are broad talking points which don't really have a specific relation to Libertarianism.