Opinions on Rollins' face run and how would you fix it?

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There's not a lot you can do because he's a fundamentally unlikable person. People forget that he was the least over guy of Shield from start to finish, wasn't particularly over in NXT, and it took nearly 2 years of intense, oversaturation levels of push to get him over as a heel in the first place. So turning him face and having him cut the same type of promos that killed Roman do no favors to anyone.

There's not a dude in WWE who screams "unlikable piece of shyt" more than Seth. He's never going to work as a face.
 

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They've still got Seth acting like he did when he was a scummy b*stard. I actually think they should have had Rollins kayfabe fukked up real bad and taken him off TV for a bit and gave his character more of a reason to be pissed. Come back with an angrier persona, and open up his moveset a bit more, which admittedly they have done. He even did a God's Last Gift in one match I saw - but get that fukking pedigree of him, he can't even do it that good :scust:. They probably won't let him have Phoenix Splash either now seeing as that's Rich Swann's super finisher so they're going to need to come up with something.

At the moment, the main issue is that he didn't turn when they should have turned him, and now he has to build up that momentum again. At this point, it's not even clear whether he's completely face yet. He hasn't really had that nadir.

A better question is getting everyone's opinions on Owens' title reign. He's the 3rd Wheel in his own feud.
This is the bigger issue IMO. I've long believed Owens is simply an awesome wrestler and performer and I stand by that 100%. Saying that, this reign has been a disappointment. It's almost a Randy Orton circa 2013 reign - he's the champ but also the supporting character to the protagonist and antagonist. Both Seth and Owens in fact, are overshadowed in a storyline that's supposed to be about them.
 

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Its too late, shoulda turned him when he came back. He's getting decent pops now, but people just like him, they don't love him. It's hard to have a guy screw over every babyface for 2 years and then all of the sudden you're just supposed to start liking him.
 

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A better question is getting everyone's opinions on Owens' title reign. He's the 3rd Wheel in his own feud.

He is being overshadowed by Jericho, as is Rollins. Jericho is the most over person in this feud and is outclassing both men on a nightly basis.
 

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Don't like it. They're giving him murky motives and have yet to do anything "face" with him. They're also neglecting the fact that everything he's accusing Owens of is also what he's been guilty of for the last 3 years. He's not even a legit tweener right now, just a heel who's fighting evil-er heels, who stopped giving annoying cocky evil laugh promos



Inconsistent booking/writing, that's Raw for you :manny:
 

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as usual it goes back to story and emotional investment

what has happened thats supposed to make me care about seth as a good guy?

how does wwe creative not think of this? :why:

sometimes I almost post some shyt like this or I see someone post some shyt like this

and I stop like "damn, is it fair that we are always coming down on WWE creative?"

but

what the fukk does wwe creative collect a paycheck for, they don't come up with shyt :why:

fukk em
 

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There's not a lot you can do because he's a fundamentally unlikable person. People forget that he was the least over guy of Shield from start to finish, wasn't particularly over in NXT, and it took nearly 2 years of intense, oversaturation levels of push to get him over as a heel in the first place. So turning him face and having him cut the same type of promos that killed Roman do no favors to anyone.

There's not a dude in WWE who screams "unlikable piece of shyt" more than Seth. He's never going to work as a face.

yup. same reason why Klandys 05 face turn failed miserably.
 
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Dude doesn't have Jeff hardy`s aura.

Jeff got that rockstar aura about him. He got the "IT" factor.

Just because you got long hair and do some high flying moves doesn't make you the next Jeff hardy.

I'm not that high on Rollins. He's boring as a face and a heel.

Reigns>>>>Rollins real talk:yeshrug:


He need j&j security back. That's the only way he can grab my attention.:manny:
 

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Mehhhh, and thats comparing it to his NXT run for me
Kevin Owens' NXT champion run >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his "Universal" title run by light years.

That pop-up powerbomb to the apron put people out of action back then, not amazed at all that he does it now and it's just a move.
 

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I'd have Stephanie cut a promo that she's telling him he's no longer getting title shots because he hasn't got the job done. Have him climb back to the top of the order only to have it taken away by HHH then he beats HHH and stops using the pedigree. New finisher
 
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