Other than "it is wrong", which, is valid...why should I be concerned about international students attending American universities?

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I really don't do the "doesn't effect me directly, don't care" low awareness shyt...it allows tyrants to do tyrannical stuff step by step.

But, why should I care about students from Korea and India and Germany attending us universities, from Harvard, to Purdue, to Central Florida?

I understand that this is essentially an EXPORT for the United States and adds to our GDP. That is a real thing. And, it does add to the isolationism which is detrimental to the US in many ways.

I also don't think those enrollments will magically go to black Americans, though they might.

But, fighting so other countries rich children can come to the US, and either get a job in an American company with no ties to this country, or go back and enrich their home countries, or go into politics without knowing or caring about American history or plight....

Is this a battle I should care about? This is different to me from core immigration issues. Please be adult with replies, I'm not here for memes.
 

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The way you’re asking the question makes it seem like you’re pro foreign nationals attending US universities.

I agree with the last 2 paragraphs of your post.

Not my problem and why should US tax dollars support it?
 
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The way you’re asking the question makes it seem like you’re pro foreign nationals attending US universities.

I agree with the last 2 paragraphs of your post.

Not my problem and why should US tax dollars support it?
If you want to support Trump you don't need to justify it to us :yeshrug:
See, this is what happens when you look at even an isolated issue with nuance.

One person receives it that I'm pro foreigners in colleges. The other thinks I'm closet MAGA. Amazing.
 
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The way you’re asking the question makes it seem like you’re pro foreign nationals attending US universities.

I agree with the last 2 paragraphs of your post.

Not my problem and why should US tax dollars support it?
I'm not sure how I feel about it tbh. The last two paragraphs kind of sum up how I feel, and I'm very pro limiting H1-B visas professionally....but the motives behind this discussion are unsavory.

The big problem to me is non-rich or "normal" Americans are going against elite kids in terms of wealth and privilege from the rest of the world for those spots in those colleges. I've never thought that was fair personally.
 

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I'm a bothsider/non-voter but I think the reason you should care or someone would argue you should care is because they start with the immigrants, college schools, and then continue to move and diminish other groups. Give them a inch and they try to take a mile. Others wills say that line of thinking is fearmongering.
See, this is what happens when you look at even an isolated issue with nuance.

One person receives it that I'm pro foreigners in colleges. The other thinks I'm closet MAGA. Amazing.
 
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If the rest of the world doesn't need us, eventually the usd value with drop, and lead to more inflation.
The more dependent the foreign world is on us, the power we have as a country and economy.
Good point. You think valuing our education system is an integral part of this? That, American buying power and manufacturing exports, and defense presence and exports aren't enough?
 
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You somewhat already answered the main contributing factor. It is an export and you are most likely aware of the difference in int'l student tuition fees VS domestic. So with that income the "trickle down effect" of allocating funding.

Then there is the more nebulous side of things such as different viewpoints, cultural ideas that create different ways of thinking, best minds from around the world concentrated in the same place, etc

But it isn' t a direct issue affecting you so its resonance will be lighter.








The other highly important reason though is..... ..............















It would perhaps help yo blacknass develop some fashion sense and appreciate the glory of the 90's footy shirt. :pacspit:
 
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Wait until countries start kicking out US students

Someone's nationality to attend a university shouldn't be an issue

I understand diploma mills, etc and false credentials. But this is horeshyt.

Holla at me when folks give up their iPhone and Nikes
I really don't see a connection here.

And, I'm indifferent regarding other countries kicking out us students OTHER than it escalating isolationism.
 

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I really don't see a connection here.

And, I'm indifferent regarding other countries kicking out us students OTHER than it escalating isolationism.

We got a problem with China until we want cheap T-shirts, shoes and electronics.

This is going to blow up on our faces. Just like everything that idiot does
 

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Soft power is useful to the USA. Something like a million foreign students studying each year. That has a cumulative effect.

Trump is trying to burn whatever goodwill people in the world still have for the US. I assume this is largely to placate his racist, xenophobic base and have less liberal and educated people around because its not a practical move otherwise.
 

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Good point. You think valuing our education system is an integral part of this? That, American buying power and manufacturing exports, and defense presence and exports aren't enough?
you need to corner every market you can. Not just stop at one or two and think that is good enough.
you never know what the future brings and what change might come with it. Diversifying is playing it safe.
Henry Ford thought that model T was the end all and be all for car design. Refused to innovate any further. Sold so many even having one in mint condition today isn't worth all that much as a collectors item. Eventually automakers caught up and passed them and they fell off from their top spot.
Lesson being, never say you've done enough, always keep going
 
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