Other than "it is wrong", which, is valid...why should I be concerned about international students attending American universities?

[O.T.I.S.]

What this idiot doesn't realize is by having folks come here it actually weakens other countries intellectually and economically.

Having global brain drain/talent (wherever they come from) is a terrible idea.

Should the NBA only have American players?

All this does is take $$ and talent elsewhere

Yes… lets put this in terms nikkas will understand

Sports/NBA.

It’s the same reason we have international players (some who were US students).

To stay the leader of the profession, with the best of the best competing and representing us (except during olympics).

But as well, we also exchange students to high educational institutions all over the world… to do the exact same shyt.


But in the US… Harvard is the top of the top. Therefore, probably the top school on the planet.

If they fold, guess what that says to everyone and everywhere else? Over “DEI” aka racism.

What do you all think that signals to the Trump administration? Do you all think ALL of this shyt just stops here?

 

[IllNameMyselfLater]

I asked ChatGPT

TLDR: A lot of them stay and start businesses. Especially the ones with STEM Majors.

How many foreign born students have stayed in the United States and started a company


Foreign-born students have made significant contributions to the U.S. startup ecosystem, especially in the technology sector. While it's hard to pinpoint an exact number, there are some interesting statistics and trends that highlight the impact of international students in U.S. entrepreneurship.

Here are a few key points:

1. **Contribution to Startups**: A large proportion of U.S. startups are founded by foreign-born entrepreneurs. According to a 2016 report from the *National Foundation for American Policy*, about **25% of new companies** in the U.S. that are backed by venture capital have at least one immigrant founder.

2. **Tech Startups**: In particular, **foreign-born individuals are heavily represented** in the tech sector. Many successful U.S. tech startups, including **Google, Tesla, and Yahoo**, were founded or co-founded by international students or immigrants.

3. **STEM Graduates**: The number of foreign-born students who stay in the U.S. and start businesses is especially high among those who graduate with degrees in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). In fact, **half of all STEM PhDs** in the U.S. are awarded to international students, and many go on to found startups or work in entrepreneurial roles in tech companies.

4. **Statistics on Entrepreneurs**: A 2021 *National Venture Capital Association* (NVCA) report found that **more than 50% of Silicon Valley startups** were founded by immigrants. Foreign-born students, especially those with higher education, are often prime candidates for launching these companies.

5. **Programs and Ecosystem**: The U.S. offers several programs aimed at supporting foreign-born students who want to transition into entrepreneurship, such as the **International Entrepreneur Rule** and various startup incubators and accelerators that specifically support immigrant founders.

### Specific Numbers

While exact numbers of foreign-born students who have founded companies are hard to come by, some estimates suggest that **around 40-50%** of new startups in sectors like technology are founded by immigrants, which includes foreign-born students who come to the U.S. for education and decide to stay and start a company.

In summary, while we may not have an exact number, it's clear that foreign-born students play a critical role in U.S. entrepreneurship, particularly in the tech sector, and contribute to a significant portion of new business formation in the country.

 

[Fillerguy]

I agree. Empathy is a useless emotion.

 

[NobodyReally]

You can't be number #1 in a global economy or knowledge and invention race if you want to keep everyone out. That's not how this works. If you kick everyone out, then you're not a part of the global competition. You're not going to be someone people clamor to visit or learn from. We've had this lesson given time and time again and it always turns out the same way. Isolation as a ideology leads to brain drain and a decline in learning and invention. It also hurts your own graduates ability to communicate across cultural lines or relate to people who aren't like them, which hurts business and diplomacy. You can't learn how to make money across cultural lines and actually impact others if you don't even interact with them. It's just so stupid.

But yeah, Google does a much better job of explaining this.

 

[Savvir]

Soft power is useful to the USA. Something like a million foreign students studying each year. That has a cumulative effect.

Biggest benefit of international students....

Their Homeland propoganda kinda gets less effective when they have large populations of highly educated citizens who have firsthand experience of America

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

Well to answer your question

The majority citizen demographic in this country is dumb as shyt and don't value intellectual pursuits at all. They will cut corners in everything possible.

The minority demographic (black people) is blocked out of being competitive in these same intellectual pursuits.

America uses brain drain to fill those positions and keep the status quo while simultaneously keeping the countries from being competitive in the US.

It's not something I lose sleep over but it does have indirect consequences for everyone.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The way you’re asking the question makes it seem like you’re pro foreign nationals attending US universities.

I agree with the last 2 paragraphs of your post.

Not my problem and why should US tax dollars support it?

Foreign students usually pay full tuition out of pocket, especially at public universities where they aren't eligible for federal aid. They pay more than domestic students too, which helps subsidize costs for in-state students. It's a boon, both for domestic, in-state students and the vitality of the education system as a whole.

 

[Consigliere]

Those foreign students are basically resources that we’re stealing from their home countries. We want the world’s best and smartest coming here for 2 reasons:

1. They add to our economy and subtract from their home’s economy. We need those doctors, nurses, scientists & engineers. And we want them to spend their 6 figure salary here instead of at home.

2. It allows us to flex our soft power: culture on them whether they stay here or return home after college. Some of the most patriotic people are immigrants because they have decided that the US is ‘better’ than wherever they came from.

Edit: reason 3 - foreign women and exoticals.

 

[the cac mamba]

Those foreign students are basically resources that we’re stealing from their home countries. We want the world’s best and smartest coming here for 2 reasons:

1. They add to our economy and subtract from their home’s economy. We need those doctors, nurses, scientists & engineers. And we want them to spend their 6 figure salary here instead of at home.

2. It allows us to flex our soft power: culture on them whether they stay here or return home after college. Some of the most patriotic people are immigrants because they have decided that the US is ‘better’ than wherever they came from.

how many of these kids are staying in america though?

like these chinese kids who come and do college here, and go right back to china; they're not doing that as a favor to america i have zero problem with rubio stopping that. we're basically in a cold war with them

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Good points of view here brehs

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

how many of these kids are staying in america though?

like these chinese kids who come and do college here, and go right back to china; they're not doing that as a favor to america i have zero problem with rubio stopping that. we're basically in a cold war with them

This is a big factor in my thought process. Many go back, or stay and don't value America or Americans. Is that right? It's a question

 

[the cac mamba]

This is a big factor in my thought process. Many go back, or stay and don't value America or Americans. Is that right? It's a question

the only real benefit to them being here, is that these colleges charge them full freight, and that subsidizes american kids

most of the other reasons are

 

[Consigliere]

how many of these kids are staying in america though?

like these chinese kids who come and do college here, and go right back to china; they're not doing that as a favor to america i have zero problem with rubio stopping that. we're basically in a cold war with them

41% according to google

 

[TEH]

If the rest of the world doesn't need us, eventually the usd value with drop, and lead to more inflation.
The more dependent the foreign world is on us, the power we have as a country and economy.

This exactly



If you don’t get this point you’re stupid and need to log off. Don’t give those customers a cold burger - get back to work.

 

[Absolut]

See, this is what happens when you look at even an isolated issue with nuance.

One person receives it that I'm pro foreigners in colleges. The other thinks I'm closet MAGA. Amazing.

Pretty much sums up political discourse the last few years