Our Lord and Saviour Jay Electronica exposes Billboard cacs

[Black Magisterialness]

You've deflected from Eminem to Common, then DMX, now the ol and trusty "you stuck in the past" shtick. All in response to the fact that Em's discog is

I've just been pointing out how sloppy your examples are. You're picking 'weak' targets in your mind (respected rappers but not obvious top 5) and trying to compare Em's shortcomings to their shortcomings. Without realizing that you have little-to-no idea what you're talking about.

"Party Up" and "Ruff Ryders Anthem" STILL get played, breh. Obviously not in a 'modern turn-up set', but if any DJ is playing anything between 98 - 2008, you're gonna hear X at some point. If you're at a lounge or something less 'clubby', you'll hear some Common.

You'll never hear Em in either setting and those are the years he was supposedly dropping all these "classics."

1. Its half classic and half shytty a point I already made.

2. We are talking about rappers, Em is a rapper...as is Common...as is X...as is all the people we are talking about.

3. You talking about 98-08 that's ten years. As if the following years don't exist, again, existing in a time vacuum. In addition if you refer to my post you will see that i had already made the distinction between a club/lounge.

4. You are still coming from a myopic scope and context that all of hip-hop and rap must exist in the club/party atmosphere and it simply doesn't. That concept is woefully basic.

 

[jadillac]

I have never cared about a list..... its all a matter of opinion

people get worked up for no reason

It's moreso, a future thing.

20 years from now if Pac can't even crack a top 10 over ppl who accomplished far less, he (and many others) will be forgotten about completely.
And that's a sad re-write of history.

 

[GoonbergScandal]

Say what you will but he ain't just turning up pretending this ain't happening.

Y'all can't have it both ways. Most rappers now are cowards who won't voice any strong opinions on race politics. Jay Elec don't play that.

These cacs tryna sneak em in a top 10 list over PAC?

I'm not just talking about Jay Electronica. I'm talking about these hotep nikkas and bytches in my personal life also. Talking alll that Hotep, pro black bullshyt, then turn around and rep Baphomet on the low behind closed doors.

 

[SirBiatch]

4. You are still coming from a myopic scope and context that all GREAT hip-hop and rap must exist in the club/party atmosphere and it simply doesn't. That concept is woefully basic.

fixed.

And give me a good reason why this is 'woefully basic'. Are you aware that hip hop at its very base is Black inner-city party music and that ALL the goats are considered goats because they've made the longest-lasting party music?

 

[Black Magisterialness]

fixed.

And give me a good reason why this is 'woefully basic'. Are you aware that hip hop at its very base is Black inner-city party music and that ALL the goats are considered goats because they've made the longest-lasting party music?

No it doesn't. Tell me the last time you heard fukking "Memory Lane" or "Lyrical Exercise" or "Verbal Intercourse" at the fukking club. GTFO. BE was one of the best rap albums of the last decade and ain't shyt about it party music. Illmatic is arguably the best rap album of all time and the most party tracks are either "Halftime" or "It Ain't Hard To Tell" both of which aren't in anyone's party rotation and haven't been since the 90''s

Based of your definition Young Thug, Quan, Flocka and Future are poised to be on your mount Rushmore of hip Hop.

You sound foolish bro.

 

[SirBiatch]

No it doesn't. Tell me the last time you heard fukking "Memory Lane" or "Lyrical Exercise" or "Verbal Intercourse" at the fukking club.

you must have missed the words "party atmosphere" in my previous post.

I've been at hip hop lounges, speaking events or bbqs where the DJ would play Memory Lane and Verbal Intercourse. Obviously not often (Memory Lane) because it's a bit too mellow and it depends on the hip hop knowledge of the crowd, but it still has that groove you can get into.

Key word here is GROOVE. Please mark that in your brain so you don't keep deflecting and bringing up examples attempting to cape for Em while they don't apply.

Where are the classic Em records with GROOVE that heads respond well to?

GTFO. BE was one of the best rap albums of the last decade and ain't shyt about it party music.

no it wasn't. and besides, I've heard "Go" at lounges even as recent as last year. So again, your example is shoddy.

Illmatic is arguably the best rap album of all time and the most party tracks are either "Halftime" or "It Ain't Hard To Tell" both of which aren't in anyone's party rotation and haven't been since the 90''s

Just heard Halftime at an (admittedly)-hipster restaurant last week. Packed full of people.

I heard It Aint Hard To Tell at a lounge with an older Black crowd and that sh*t sounded

Based of your definition Young Thug, Quan, Flocka and Future are poised to be on your mount Rushmore of hip Hop.

You sound foolish bro.

no they wouldn't and you're the first to bring them up. Which tells me where your head is at and proves my point that you didn't really witness hip hop. So the stuff I'm saying sounds foreign as hell to you.

Then you're throwing in pics and laughing smilies to cast me aside as 'dumb' when you should be focusing on strengthening your argument.

I'm telling you. Past '84, the vast majority of y'all look at hip hop as just regular-ass music interchangeable with other popular genres. It just wasn't like that for our generation.

You still never answered the question I posed in response to your 'woefully basic' statement.

 

[10bandz]

nikka you don't be at lounges, ya forehead can't fit in the spot stop fronting nikka

 

[Black Magisterialness]

you must have missed the words "party atmosphere" in my previous post.

I've been at hip hop lounges, speaking events or bbqs where the DJ would play Memory Lane and Verbal Intercourse. Obviously not often (Memory Lane) because it's a bit too mellow and it depends on the hip hop knowledge of the crowd, but it still has that groove you can get into.

Key word here is GROOVE. Please mark that in your brain so you don't keep deflecting and bringing up examples attempting to cape for Em while they don't apply.

Where are the classic Em records with GROOVE that heads respond well to?



no it wasn't. and besides, I've heard "Go" at lounges even as recent as last year. So again, your example is shoddy.



Just heard Halftime at an (admittedly)-hipster restaurant last week. Packed full of people.

I heard It Aint Hard To Tell at a lounge with an older Black crowd and that sh*t sounded




no they wouldn't and you're the first to bring them up. Which tells me where your head is at and proves my point that you didn't really witness hip hop. So the stuff I'm saying sounds foreign as hell to you.

Then you're throwing in pics and laughing smilies to cast me aside as 'dumb' when you should be focusing on strengthening your argument.

I'm telling you. Past '84, the vast majority of y'all look at hip hop as just regular-ass music interchangeable with other popular genres. It just wasn't like that for our generation.

You still never answered the question I posed in response to your 'woefully basic' statement.

Hipster spots piss me off in their ability to pretentiously play really good rap

Dude you posted all that just to avoid the point. Rap doesn't have to fukking "groove", period. Just because you don't like or can't digest Em doesn't take away from his skill. I don't particularly care for Scarface, but i'll concede the fact that dude's music is influential and his stories are dope. Learn to be objective and not a stuck in the 80's-90's nikka. That's my point, dude. Its a basic and rudimentary view on what has become a VERY diverse genre of music. To limit it in a way like "only great rap is in the party atmosphere" is basic, and a 1988 definition of the genre. Its limited and dismissive.


And BE is one of the best rap albums of the 00's and MANY agree with it. Stop being argumentative for an arguments sake. The shyt basically saved his career.




but where are these spots?

 

[10bandz]

This nikka @SirBiatch is lying about all these spots he be at. Lets not forget he's the nikka who makes videos for TheColi and is 31 and looks up to ASAP Rocky. He in the basement somewhere in Ottawa or in Manchester or something. nikka be fronting on here

 

[10bandz]

I just negged @SirBiatch for lying about his life stop the persona nikka

you probably got that ......

 

[Da King]

He didn't expose shyt, coli posters were saying the EXACT same shyt when the first thread about it was made


but you c00ns need someone famous to say it first to agree with it

 

[10bandz]

He didn't expose shyt, coli posters were saying the EXACT same shyt when the first thread about it was made


but you c00ns need someone famous to say it first to agree with it

I don't think its necessarily people need someone famous to say it, it's just nice when they do because at least the media reports on it and the point gets across.

 

[Billy Ocean]

This nikka @SirBiatch is lying about all these spots he be at. Lets not forget he's the nikka who makes videos for TheColi and is 31 and looks up to ASAP Rocky. He in the basement somewhere in Ottawa or in Manchester or something. nikka be fronting on here

I'd cut my nuts off with a butter knife if coward @SirBiatch is 31. He's 35-40. Leaning more towards 40.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

He didn't expose shyt, coli posters were saying the EXACT same shyt when the first thread about it was made


but you c00ns need someone famous to say it first to agree with it

Even still Jay Elec-Hanukkah was cuddled up to a Rothschild the first family of financial white supremacy.

 

[Da King]

Even still Jay Elec-Hanukkah was cuddled up to a Rothschild the first family of financial white supremacy.

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