OutKast vs. Mobb Deep | By The Numbers

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that video came out years after the fact when mob deep was washed up.
that video was from their last gold album. Which is consistent with their career average. It definitely came later on but we cant act like it was over for them,when they have 1 plat plaque and 3 gold ones and this is one of the gold ones.
 

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Your story changes all the time.






Also, if you didn’t know Illmatic existed until 2003, and didn’t hear Shook Ones until 8 Mile, you weren’t really into hip hop in 97. Or 96. Or whatever year you’ll try to claim next :tochilol:
:damn: @SirBiatch exposed as a fraud again
 

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Yeah I don’t get it. It’s not a very precise term.
I can see “pop” rap, like PM Dawn.
I definitely don’t see how the first or second Outkast albums were a mixture of hip hop and other forms of music. I can see it on a few tracks on Aquemini. Liberation. Chonky Fire. Spottie Ottie Dopalicious.

What are the records on the first two albums though?

Which songs from the first album led to that?


outkast albums make me want to sip tea.

I don't have tracklists for their 1st 2 albums. but I can play those jawns in between pm dawn & arrested development cds and the mood wont change. and a lot of the same people that bought those albums, were buying outkast, whether people want to acknowledge it or not.

they were also given placements as a top alternative rap act once those groups(and digable planets & them) were phased out and they were getting the token alternative nominations as well.:laugh: then they got bumped to a distant #2 when the fugees blew up, and stayed there for years until the refugee camp imploded.

the laface stench is all over those 1st 2 albums, and it doesn't help that they came outta nowhere signed to laface and got a ton of hype. theres a lot of stuff that didn't sit well with a lot of people

and the back-end of atliens incent music. and then theres tracks like "jazze belle"(which I liked) that had the laface stench in overdrive.

ehh, aquemini was moreso electro-funk, rather than r&b-sounding. its more like a not-so-poppy prelude to stankonia.

and I know youre not arguing about their last 3 albums, but for the people that are - those albums weren't even really marketed to the hip-hop community like that. nuff said.

Nah you got sensitive when you did this



You went on a keyboard tantrum :dead:


no.

I simply hit the cut-n-paste function because you kept tip-toeing off the topic & deflecting.

any other bullchit you plan on pulling out of your ass?


shyt like this proves you’re late to the party. Like EPMD, Redman, the Wu, and Bone don’t have gold and platinum plaques. Like DMX wasn’t the biggest rapper in the game at one point


youre proving his point actually.

epmd, redman & 90% of wutang's stuff wasn't really mainstream.

DMX is DMX.

bone was hardcore but they weren't in that rugged sounding category like those other names.

DMX wasn’t the exception.Rugged hip hop has always found its way into the mainstream it just wasn’t the artist’s intention. Onyx and Das Efx both got classic singles that were huge. Even Run DMC were considered rugged for their time. I know I can name a lot more


onyx had the classic singles on their 1st album, but they didn't even attempt to follow-up on that formula for their second album, and they havnt been in the mainstream since. not musically at least.

similar situation with das efx. and a grip of other names are coming to mind from that era. lords of the underground anybody?
You could've kept all that to yourself. If we're gonna continue to interact you need to establish some kinda credibility. I gave you schools, pics, names, dates, streets, addresses....you gave me a wall of text with zero information.

Who are you, exactly?

I need details. Specific details. Dates, names, places, pictures, the works. If you can't do that, then I really got no reason to entertain this exchange.

And we wouldn't have been cordial....you were 9 when I was 19. I can't get "stripes" off interacting with you. I was into rap before you were born, for Christ sake.

Fred.


funny how the majority of my post was actually on topic, while none of yours is.:whistle: gee, I wonder why.

lol @ the bolded. who the f*ck are YOU?? u gassed because you posted some goofy class photo, thinking its gonna get you somewhere with anybody that maters.:laugh: and you talk like youre the feds or some chit. the f*ck I look like posting names & pictures on a message board?? we don't move like that out here b.

and whats funny is that most of the more practical stuff youre demanding to know is stuff that's already on-record on here in the local threads that apply. I don't owe you any explanations or none of that chit tho. but feel free to search it out. it aint hard to find. lol. don't even get me started on the people I know personally on this board.

and youre right. we wouldn't be cordial in real life. youre a joke. look at you still clinging onto this "I was 19 and was listening to rap before you" argument.
at some point, you just gotta realize that youre somewhat of an outsider, who gets lost whenever a discussion gets too cultural - like this one. but instead, you want to be that guest who kicks his feet up on the furniture.

I now see why so many of the black posters don't like you. I thought you were just a cool white bul with a misunderstood passion for hip-hop, but I now see that youre one of those vultures who likes to come in and start dictating stuff that you don't fully understand.

I don't know what the fukk these cats are talking about.

If Outkast was "alternative rap" on "Aquemini" then what the fukk was De La on "Buhloone Mindstate"?

What's funny is dudes use the "alternative rap" tag as if there wasn't years worth of actual alternative rap that would make even Outkast's weirdest shyt seem normal by comparison.

Fred.


if you don't know, then why are you poking out your chest, tryna argue about it??? then you try to tell people whats what in markets that you have absolutely no access to.

all you had to do was ask respectfully, instead of showing your ass.

ive seen de la soul grouped into the alternative category as well. and the native tongue are clearly a strong influence on outkast,
altho they were also alot stronger on the traditional hip-hop tip than outkast.


that video was from their last gold album. Which is consistent with their career average. It definitely came later on but we cant act like it was over for them,when they have 1 plat plaque and 3 gold ones and this is one of the gold ones.


it was already over for them breh.

they had a loyal built-in consumer base by that point that pushed it to gold.

but it was already over.
 
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Havoc can hold his own with his own style but lets be fair if this turns into a havoc vs prodigy thread. Prodigy

Dudes are too young to know that going gold was platinum in the 80's early 90s
Of course. Prodigy is the GOAT. :psalute:
 

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What's funny is dudes use the "alternative rap" tag as if there wasn't years worth of actual alternative rap that would make even Outkast's weirdest shyt seem normal by comparison.
Post some examples of alternative rap.
I really don’t know exactly what that means.
 
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