Pac had them cac shook on set

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he started that shyt with BIG & Bad Boy, i don't remember Biggie making any songs like Hit Em Up before that came out. now as far as the all out East vs West shyt that was instigated & propagated that shyt but Pac was def the instigator with the Death Row/Biggie/Bad Boy beef IMO


ur proving ole boy's point.

pac's beef didnt start on wax.

and death row/bad boy was already going on before pac even got down with death row.


i know that but i'm saying you don't have any songs of BIG going at Pac what are you gonna pull out Who Shot Ya? as far as Death Row vs Bad Boy Pac is the instigator IMO, you don't really believe Biggie set up Pac at Quad do you?


this wasnt rap beef.

and you have alot of research to do breh. pac never accused biggie of setting him up.
 

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ur proving ole boy's point.

pac's beef didnt start on wax.

and death row/bad boy was already going on before pac even got down with death row.





this wasnt rap beef.

and you have alot of research to do breh. pac never accused biggie of setting him up.

i know it's from Complex and i just did a quick google but

In a 1995 interview with VIBE, 2Pac blamed Henchman, Puff Daddy, and the Notorious B.I.G. for playing a role in the Quad shooting.

i never read VIBE back then (or ever) so i don't have memories of that specific interview.

i always heard he blamed BIG and cats thought Who Shot Ya was about Pac getting shot. the Bad Boy/DR beef started with some shyt about Suge's people killing someone at Puffy Party in ATL or something, as far as i can remember. not to mention Suge starting shyt at the Source Awards, and the personal beef with Pac & BIG had it's start earlier but Pac was clearly the guy who was pushing it, besides the media.
 

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i know that but i'm saying you don't have any songs of BIG going at Pac what are you gonna pull out Who Shot Ya? as far as Death Row vs Bad Boy Pac is the instigator IMO, you don't really believe Biggie set up Pac at Quad do you?

Pac stopped fukin with everyone who had anything to do with that incident, including his own longtime homie STRETCH who was a robbery victim alongside him


When ur paranoid and don't really know who to point the fingers at it's best to just step back and stop fukkin with everyone instead of doing the impossible task of truly getting to the bottom of sh1t


Yea it's been 20 yrs, the dust has settled, smoke has cleared and now we have a pretty good idea who what happened and who did it.(Jimi Henchman)


but back then sh1t was still fresh and cloudy, I personally wouldn't even wanna be associated with someone that "may" have had something to do with harm coming my way, even if they say they didn't do it, How can I know that for sure?



So Pac just said fuk it and mashed on everybody



I'm sure he'd apologize to Big in 2015 knowing for sure he had nothing to do with it now tho


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i always heard he blamed BIG and cats thought Who Shot Ya was about Pac getting shot. the Bad Boy/DR beef started with some shyt about Suge's people killing someone at Puffy Party in ATL or something, as far as i can remember. not to mention Suge starting shyt at the Source Awards, and the personal beef with Pac & BIG had it's start earlier but Pac was clearly the guy who was pushing it, besides the media.


everything in the bolded was before pac got down with death row, yet youre still trying to put it on pac. it doesnt make any sense breh.

pac didnt blame biggie for the robbery. he was convinced that biggie knew it was going down but didnt give him the drop. and biggie's actions afterwards made him look even more guilty of what pac was assuming. its simple mathematics. even biggie's peoples say that biggie handled the situation improperly. he didnt go see pac in jail or contact him. he claimed he went to the hospital that night but they wouldnt let him see pac. that may be true, but what stopped him from going back when pac was in recovery? meanwhile, pac is in the hospital & in prison all shot up, and you know its mad people in his ear. you dont seek him out, but instead you drop a song called "who shot ya"? lol. alot of niccas wouldve got biggie touched. but lets paint pac as the bad guy cuz he made a diss record.:whistle:

treach broke it down perfectly.


 
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everything in the bolded was before pac got down with death row, yet youre still trying to put it on pac. it doesnt make any sense breh.

pac didnt blame biggie for the robbery. he was convinced that biggie knew it was going down but didnt give him the drop. and biggie's actions afterwards made him look even more guilty of what pac was assuming. its simple mathematics. even biggie's peoples say that biggie handled the situation improperly. he didnt go see pac in jail or contact him. he claimed he went to the hospital that night but they wouldnt let him see pac. that may be true, but what stopped him from going back when pac was in recovery? meanwhile, pac is in the hospital & in prison all shot up, and you know its mad people in his ear. you dont seek him out, but instead you drop a song called "who shot ya"? lol. alot of niccas wouldve got biggie touched. but lets paint pac as the bad guy cuz he made a diss record.:whistle:



I'm not saying Pac was the bad guy just that he instigated a lot. Biggie made some dumb choices and probably was following Puff just like Pac followed Suge but on wax Pac struck first and hardest he was clearly the one lashing out while BIG didn't make anything like Hit Em Up or Bad Boy Killaz and all that shyt. Pac was out here saying Biggie stole his songs for Ready To Die. I've heard people say Pac admitted it was for publicity not sure how much I believe that tho as hard as he was going at them. If Big and Pac weren't DR and Bad Boy then it probably wouldn't have gonna as far as it did. That added fuel to the fire and made what was really 2 seperate beefs into a big beef and made the East/West thing get blown out of proportion.

I'm not quite old enough to have it all laid out to me as it happened. I was that 1 or 2 years too young and living down here didn't help getting Source mags 2 months late and shyt but I still know enough as to what was going on.
 

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I've been in environments like that before :pachaha:
them dudes is feeling "man lets just get this over with and get outta here" :sadcam:
 

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I'm not saying Pac was the bad guy just that he instigated a lot. Biggie made some dumb choices and probably was following Puff just like Pac followed Suge but on wax Pac struck first and hardest he was clearly the one lashing out while BIG didn't make anything like Hit Em Up or Bad Boy Killaz and all that shyt. Pac was out here saying Biggie stole his songs for Ready To Die. I've heard people say Pac admitted it was for publicity not sure how much I believe that tho as hard as he was going at them. If Big and Pac weren't DR and Bad Boy then it probably wouldn't have gonna as far as it did. That added fuel to the fire and made what was really 2 seperate beefs into a big beef and made the East/West thing get blown out of proportion.

I'm not quite old enough to have it all laid out to me as it happened. I was that 1 or 2 years too young and living down here didn't help getting Source mags 2 months late and shyt but I still know enough as to what was going on.


no offense. you the homie and all, but theres alot of misinformation in your posts.
 
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