'Pac is a liar, Biggie setting him up is a lie' - DJ Clark Kent

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nikka he spit the fukking Long KISS Goodnight verse on the radio in Cali. And fukk u mean? They HAD their own security detail. The Crips they was hanging with was some extra shyt. Puff had a relationship with both Keefe D and Baby Lane. And Biggie was Crip affiliated the same way nikkas try to say Pac was blood affiliated. Biggie’s right hand man is a fukkin crip.

You know you're my nikka but you can't equate them bro. C Gutta was Big's childhood friend who happened to be an OG Crip.

Pac started associating with Bloods as an adult on the label, got a MOB tat & involved himself in a gang situation
 

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Son do u know the series of events that happened after? Pac said what he said. Felt how he felt. AFTER Biggie refused to answer his calls or visit him in jail. Then he does the Vibe interview. Puff has Biggie release Who Shot Ya at that time frame to basically capitalize off of the Drama. Puff talked mad shyt in Vibe and dissed Pac: Biggie n them started shyttin on Pac to Fab 5 Freddy. This is all while Pac locked up. On top of that. He supposedly “warned” Pac about them. But yet hanging around them HIMSELF before Pac was shot and still AFTERWARDS. Pac signs to Death Row. Biggie hops on the radio and lies saying that Pac was with Dogg Pound and got their trailer shot up. Now imagine if Pac was there or Snoop n them got shot up? This whole argument would be different. But after all of THIS is when Pac launched all out war on Biggie n them. Pac handled some shyt wrong. But I’m tired of nikkas making Biggie exempt of ALL of his wrongdoings. shyt. Bad Boy is what caused the domino effect for Pac to get shot the second time too by involving those Crips to take the Death Row chains.

Spliz, you usually seem on point but your takes on this Biggie and Pac shyt always seem wild skewed.

Who Shot Ya sounds like a random ass Biggie song. nikkas could literally put out 50% of Biggie catalog and try to frame it as some Tupac diss if they wanted. It was recorded before Quad and so what if it was released around the time of the Quad incident? Bad Boy supposed to stop putting out BIG bread and butter hood records just cause Pac got shot?

And how was Biggie chillin with Henchman and Jack? Proof? Was he out there partying with them, having dinners, riding around together? Sounds like some bullshyt. If they was caught at the same time together at the same place it's most likely because BIG knows nikkas that fukk with them. Same circles. That's why BIG knew them nikkas was unscrupulous and warned Pac about them. Even Tyson told Pac about them and still was around them cause those the circles they ran in. The NY criminal underbelly of ruthless criminals and killers that Pac really fully didn't understand.

Biggie didn't start talking his lil shyt here and there about Pac until Pac Vibe interview. Was he supposed to be quiet after that? And I don't recall Biggie telling nikkas Pac was with the Dogg Pound during that video shoot in NY. I recall him telling dudes these nikkas in NY making a video shytting on NY. And NY nikkas do what is expected and shot that shyt up. It is what it is. nikkas KNOW what would happen to NY nikkas if they tried to film a video dissing Cali nikkas in Cali.

Bottom line is that BIG told Pac to stop fukking with them dudes, Pac didn't listen and ended up getting shot up and robbed by them. After that Pac ends up blaming Biggie for the shyt, even though he knew he didn't set that shyt up, which drags BIG into some shyt he shouldn't really even been apart of.
 

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Him being publically accused didn’t have shyt to do with him being murdered. The same way Pac publicly accused him he publicly took it back. But nikkas ignore that part. nikkas ignore the part where he literally MENTIONED the nikkas who did it on wax. This is all before Biggie got shot. Biggie didn’t get shot cause of Pac. He got shot flexin and doing a victory lap. Yet Pac gets the blame. There was plenty of fukk shyt that Biggie did that fed the flames of their beef. nikkas need to stop wit this Biggie is innocent and Pac was the bad guy bullshyt.

He got killed because Pac got killed a few months before. That was a revenge murder against someone who never did anything to even warrant wanting revenge. Nobody is going to kill you in a planned hit like that for them little things you're talking about. If you really honestly believe Biggie's murder had nothing at all to do with 2pac then go head and believe that, I think you are letting your adoration and love for 2pac blind your judgment tho. I'm a huge Pac fan too, btw
 

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nikka he spit the fukking Long KISS Goodnight verse on the radio in Cali. And fukk u mean? They HAD their own security detail. The Crips they was hanging with was some extra shyt. Puff had a relationship with both Keefe D and Baby Lane. And Biggie was Crip affiliated the same way nikkas try to say Pac was blood affiliated. Biggie’s right hand man is a fukkin crip.

These is facts. BIG was wrong for going to Cali and chillin out there on some cocky shyt after Pac died. And I'm not gonna blame BIG for the Crip shyt. That was Puffy and his Von Zip connects.
 

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Some of these guys between 55-60 years old and still talkin bout Biggie and Pac. It’s like being a grandfather and the only interesting thing you have to talk about is your college years.

What's up with you weirdos that like to comment just off headlines...
You didn't watch the video my guy
 

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He got killed because Pac got killed a few months before. That was a revenge murder against someone who never did anything to even warrant wanting revenge. Nobody is going to kill you in a planned hit like that for them little things you're talking about. If you really honestly believe Biggie's murder had nothing at all to do with 2pac then go has and believe that, I think you are letting your adoration and love for 2pac blind your judgment tho. I'm a huge Pac fan too, btw
Pac got killed because of some shyt that PUFF started. PUFF is the one who involved the Crips in the first place. There was a damn war after Pac got killed. WHY the fukk would Biggie think it was cool to go out there and DISS a dead man on THEIR radio knowing all the shyt that’s going on behind it? Especially while hanging with the set that was involved with the murder? And y’all wanna talk about somebody being warned. Both Biggie and Puff was warned by multiple sources INCLUDING their own security detail that shyt wasn’t cool and flat out ignored it.
 

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You need to go back & listen to Majesty Big Stretch's brother

For someone stans Pac you have selective memory at times lol



Pac accused his brother of setting him up and said "guess his new friends wanted him dead?" after he was killed, he isnt exactly a non biased source.

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20+ years later..This will be a never ending argument ..

From the outside looking in,it looks like a lot of folks were using Pac both him and Big were still young and could’ve hash it out...But the situation was sticky especially when both of em were literally playing for the opposite team.

They both had faults .. let’s not make biggie an innocent angel, that’s an insult to the whole situation..
 
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