'Pac is a liar, Biggie setting him up is a lie' - DJ Clark Kent

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Looked at out of the context of the cult of personality that’s grown around him after death...and through the super cynical, jaded lens we see rappers through today....it’s really hard not to see Pac as some stupid, loud mouthed, clout chasing, fake rap beef making, attention whoring, fake gangbanging, overly emotional like a bytch, method acting clown that got himself and ultimately Big both killed

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Like imagine if that shyt were to play out exactly the same way today...how we (the hip hop online chattering class) would react to some ballet dancing, showtune listening art school kid from the east coast transitioning into a LA blood setting off gang wars in the middle of Vegas casinos that ultimately cost him and numerous others their lives...like imagine if Chris Brown did that shyt
If pac was around in This era and all that he did he wouldn’t get half the respect he did back then and wouldn’t be called no dam “realest “ like some claim he was .....I love
His music TIL this day but he caused so much friction in hiphop got himself involved in gang politics that got himself killed....
As far as biggie .... I wouldn’t say pac got biggie killed u need to give that title to the big man in the red suit .... but what pac did do was caused a lot ov hate towards biggie ....Badboy shouldn’t have been in la tho for a cool few years in my opinion.....I know it’s been 20 + years since all
This shyt but I wouldn’t blame a lot ov biggies people if they openly or behind closed doors still felt way about pac cause some ov the mess he caused and hate towards big so unnecessarily......
 

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THANK YOU CLARK KENT. The whole shyt was based off a LIE. Even if Pac suspected that in the very beginning through paranoia, he was soon informed of the TRUTH. Jimmy Henchman called this nyqqa and told him "yo that was me". It was he felt disrespected by Pac over claims of him owing Pac money. Pac knew the truth but NEVER cleared it up. BIG told his Moms that the one time they ran into each other (Soul Train Awards I think), Pac said to him "I'm just doing this for the money". I know there are a lot of Pac lovers out there who live in denial but this nyqqa was on some fake bullshyt and his lie is ground zero for all the East/West crap that followed and both of their murders. Even his homey Treach admitted that BIG had nothing to do with it (while simultaneously trying to throw shade on BIG saying he wasn't a real street cat and wouldn't be involved in anything like that, but whatever).
This is the thing what people keep missing ..... everyone who was there .... nearly everyone ov pacs homies or in-laws don’t even beileve the lie pac spread yet people still defend him it’s like wtf .... If any other rapper did that and it wasn’t true everyone and there mama would look at him phony .... pac knew biggie knew nothing he knew it was henchman n them but pac was just frustrated cause he knew for fact he himself wouldn’t do shyt to them cats cause they wouldn’t respond with lyrics but with bullets......
 
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Dapped for the Urban X-xpressions shout... the only place for this Jersey kid, who’s parents were to cheap for cable, to catch rap videos in the early 90’s


Maaaaaaaan. I miss the fukk out of Urban X-Pressions. They would play uncensored versions of videos with cursing and everything. First time I ever saw "Hit 'Em Up" video was on Urban X-Pressions actually, and it was the dirty version.

Had me like :gladbron:
 

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bigg tried to get pac to distance himself from the entities that ended up causing him harm

if you have a homie that refuses to listen & shows he's determined to move in ways contrary to anyone's benefit what do you do¿

pac should've been mad at himself for not listening to bigg

instead of being mad that bigg wouldn't step out & paint a target on his own back associating with pac

pac wanted bigg to support him being wrong & it doesn't go like that

for real bigg showed pac real love trying to direct him away from the static

pac foolishly interpreted love as co-signing & being a yes.man towards the dramatic rah rah bs

the whole saga is really a hood parable full of gems & lessons if you are perceptive

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You telling it wrong. You cats want it both ways. You want Pac to be some liar yet use his words when convenient. The story about Big supposedly warning Pac came from Pac himself and what he actually said was biggie came up in the lounge spot with the dude that set him up..when dude went to the bathroom..big said yo Pac dont fukk with this dude..Pac was like huh what you mean..big was like ill tell you later..a few nights later Pac gets robbed and shot..the thing is Pac had already distanced himself from them and stopped coming around when he saw they had their hooks in biggie..so what exactly was biggie warning him about hmmm And you cant find not one Person who big supposedly 1st hand said 'yo i warned pac"..they are all going off what Pac said and not even telling what he said right.
 
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if only biggie told who was behind the set up and did something...

it would not even be a beef...


lol...
The streets talk so theres no way that big was at the studio hippity hopping and then by total coincidence there just happened to be some other nikkas with plex and bad intentions at the exact same studio:skip: waiting on tupac - the nikka who basically put you on.(which is also 100% the jesus/judas allegory, but that's a discussion for another day) so big was a coward at the least or either a conspirator for not meeting Tupac in the parking lot on some intervene intercept type "aye, big homie let me holla at you right quick" or i guess you could say a "warning":sas2:. But since biggie didnt do that, that meant he was in the game from that point on and as we all know some mysterious :troll:west coast shot caller said :ehh:"oh, you're going, going back, back to cali cali? Ok, we'll see you in a lil bit":pachaha:
 

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The streets talk so theres no way that big was at the studio hippity hopping and then by total coincidence there just happened to be some other nikkas with plex and bad intentions at the exact same studio:skip: waiting on tupac - the nikka who basically put you on.(which is also 100% the jesus/judas allegory, but that's a discussion for another day) so big was a coward at the least or either a conspirator for not meeting Tupac in the parking lot on some intervene intercept type "aye, big homie let me holla at you right quick" or i guess you could say a "warning":sas2:. But since biggie didnt do that, that meant he was in the game from that point on and as we all know some mysterious :troll:west coast shot caller said :ehh:"oh, you're going, going back, back to cali cali? Ok, we'll see you in a lil bit":pachaha:
Plot twist...the dude from groove theory comes out the woodworks n said he was there..

Conversation rules the nation...

If somebody wanted to know the next pac was gone make...it wasnt hard..

Expect thee unexpected-plucky duck
 

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That's because Tupac moved on and in a interview he said he's done with Biggie and Bad Boy. In his words he said he had to spank his ass to let him know he's the Big Brother and his work is done he's The Victor. Pac also said he destroyed Bad Boy he made Biggie Smalls a laughing stock and there's nothing else to do

See these nikkas in here don't pay attention to shyt 70-80% wasn't even born or just babies when this all went down

Pac moved on from Bad Boy beef during his very last day's

He destroyed and was ready to rebuild with One Nation Album.

Pac was literally about to take over hip hop
lol moved on.... if anything pac kept both ov them more popular by keep yapping about it ... n that’s a lie right there he mentioned bad boy 3 days before he got shot at the mtv music awards and the deathrow east interview so they were stilL on his mind ..had pac
Survived eventually people would
Have started to pull his card on some” you gona keep yappin about the quad situation bad boy or the people who actully did that
To you or are you gona actully do something about it other talk ......
 

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Yeah but that’s the most he put out there nomad and he never once cleared that up did he .... leading people to believe what he said .....badboy were not innocent at all nomad I know that we both know the history .... but u don’t think pac was making assumptions or saving face at all about that whole quad situation?? Cause I believe firmly he was ....
Of course he’s saving face why wouldn’t he?
 

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You telling it wrong. You cats want it both ways. You want Pac to be some liar yet use his words when convenient. The story about Big supposedly warning Pac came from Pac himself and what he actually said was biggie came up in the lounge spot with the dude that set him up..when dude went to the bathroom..big said yo Pac dont fukk with this dude..Pac was like huh what you mean..big was like ill tell you later..a few nights later Pac gets robbed and shot..the thing is Pac had already distanced himself from them and stopped coming around when he saw they had their hooks in biggie..so what exactly was biggie warning him about hmmm And you cant find not one Person who big supposedly 1st hand said 'yo i warned pac"..they are all going off what Pac said and not even telling what he said right.
I guess Tyson didn't warn Pac in enough vivid detail either right?:comeon: stans:russ:
This is the weakest reply I've read in my entire life.
And Your reply let me know that truth burnt your soul:umad:
 

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I guess Tyson didn't warn Pac in enough vivid detail either right?:comeon: stans:russ:

And Your reply let me know that truth burnt your soul:umad:
Again.. Pac said Tyson warned him.. he never said biggie warned him.. keep up fakkit and put another sissy emoji while you at...you weirdos love to have it one way.. Biggie was plugged in enough to help out young naive Tupac..but Big ended up getting actually extorted and robbed then forced to become their mouth piece by the same dudes he was supposedly warning Pac about! lol this nikka biggie so stupid he couldnt see the signs? same dudes who were actually snitches and govt informants smh than ran to the feds with paper work on Suge and Pac..defending rats says alot about the type of p*ssy you are.
 
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Again.. Pac said Tyson warned him.. he never said biggie warned him.. keep up fakkit and put another sissy emoji while you at...you weirdos love to have it one way.. Biggie was plugged in enough to help out young naive Tupac..but Big ended up getting actually extorted and robbed then forced to become their mouth piece by the same dudes he was supposedly warning Pac about! lol this nikka biggie so stupid he couldnt see the signs? same dudes who were actually snitches and govt informants smh than ran to the feds with paper work on Suge and Pac..defending rats says alot about the type of p*ssy you are.
A lot of juelzin..Writing long emotional paragraphs Klinging to Pacs nuts says what kind of p*ssy you are :russ:
 

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Of course he’s saving face why wouldn’t he?
that’s fine but don’t basically scapegoat someone who actully stuck his neck out for u or insinuate that person knew something wen your just making assumptions....
 

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Again.. Pac said Tyson warned him.. he never said biggie warned him.. keep up fakkit and put another sissy emoji while you at...you weirdos love to have it one way.. Biggie was plugged in enough to help out young naive Tupac..but Big ended up getting actually extorted and robbed then forced to become their mouth piece by the same dudes he was supposedly warning Pac about! lol this nikka biggie so stupid he couldnt see the signs? same dudes who were actually snitches and govt informants smh than ran to the feds with paper work on Suge and Pac..defending rats says alot about the type of p*ssy you are.
The word was biggie might have been robbed cause pac ran back n Told them same cats “ not to hang with them “ this may or may not be truth I can’t say for sure if more people confirm this ... then this clearly shows how much ov a backstabber pac was ..... but am not gona say it’s 100 % fact cause only 1 person has said this up TIL now but who ran to the feds on pac and suge ??? Jimmy jack n them ??? Why would they need to run to the feds on them explain this logic please ......u have no proof at all again just going off pacs words or his family or lawyer .... not 1 person has shown paper work on jack yet ..... am still waiting to see it .... btw I’ve seen jimmy henchmans paper work ... but pac wasn’t callin henchman a rat just jack ....
 
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