Pac on Floyd: "He's all talk. Why not stop the talk and say 'let's fight' instead?"

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So? Comparing opponents, Floyd sold one million more with Oscar than what Manny did with Oscar. I'm not even sure Manny's 2008 rematch against Marquez was on PPV yet Floyd did a milly when he fought him. Yes I'm aware Manny did great #'s when he fought the third biggest star in the sport. But when Floyd fought that same star he sold more PPV's than Manny had ever done. Calling me b*tch boy won't change the fact that your man is yesterday's news.

I can see your bytch ass is still lost, so I'll walk you through it again... we aren't discussing who is biggest now or who's doing bigger numbers today..


We are discussing 2009, where Floydie felt he could demand shyt against Pacquiao , who was the man at the time... not Floydie

When Floydie wanted to make demands, in the first negotiations back in 09, Pac had just fought Cotto, and that fight pulled in more revenue (ppv/gate) than Floydie in his last 2 fights.. and on top of that they're fighting for Pacquiaos belt..
 
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I can see your bytch ass is still lost, so I'll walk you through it again... we aren't discussing who is biggest now or who's doing bigger numbers today..


We are discussing 2009, where Floydie felt he could demand shyt against Pacquiao , who was the man at the time... not Floydie

When Floydie wanted to make demands, in the first negotiations back in 09, Pac had just fought Cotto, and that fight pulled in more revenue (ppv/gate) than Floydie in his last 2 fights.. and on top of that they're fighting for Pacquiaos belt..
LOL @ bytch ass You're such an internet tough guy. Well at least you think you are. You're just funny.

Yeah, you keep bringing up one fight. One. One fight doesn't determine everything. You have to look at the bigger picture - prior fights, etc. Of course Manny is gonna sell more in 2009 against Cotto than what Floyd did against Marquez. Doesn't make him a bigger star. Well, maybe to you. That's one hell of a world you live in, umm, Black Jesus.

Anyway regardless...there was a 50-50 offer on the table and Manny walked away. That's something you can't dispute.
 

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Predictable response but Manny starting his amateur career at 98 lbs at age 14 to moving up to WW isn't some shocking revelation. The fact that he got more and more devastating and powerful while losing none of his physical attributes during his climb in weight is what looked unnatural to people and sparked the debate.

Floyd had to tweak his game and started pot shotting and throwing more sustained combinations to deal with the bigger guys. Natural adjustments that are necessary for any fighter not named Manny Pacquiao that are moving up to higher weight divisions. He also doesn't have Tito Ortiz bobblehead syndrome and unlike Manny is an advocate for drug testing so let's not make unfair comparisons. :usure:







You're right and that's why it's called a NEGOTIATION. Both camps had their demands and were expected to meet half way to make it happen. Floyd agreed to pay 5 million for every pound he came in overweight and also agreed to let Pacquiao pick the size of the gloves and Bob Arum choose the venue.

Floyd's biggest demand was stricter drug testing to ensure a clean fight. The same test that tens of thousands of athletes take each year with no complaints and Floyd willingly takes before all his fights. Pretty reasonable considering the scale of the fight and all that Floyd stipulated to but Pac refused and that was the deal breaker.

Pretty sad but it is what it is... the biggest fight in the history of the sport shut down because apparently one of the fighters was afraid of needles:


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Answer this... Is getting a. attoo the same as giving unlimited blood??

And when did Manny ever say he was scared of needles?

Why when Manny agreed to all Floyds demands in 2011, did the fight still not happen,, if that was the only thing holding it up before??
 

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LOL @ bytch ass You're such an internet tough guy. Well at least you think you are. You're just funny.

Yeah, you keep bringing up one fight. One. One fight doesn't determine everything. You have to look at the bigger picture - prior fights, etc. Of course Manny is gonna sell more in 2009 against Cotto than what Floyd did against Marquez. Doesn't make him a bigger star. Well, maybe to you. That's one hell of a world you live in, umm, Black Jesus.

Anyway regardless...there was a 50-50 offer on the table and Manny walked away. That's something you can't dispute.
He had sold more than Floyd/Hatton too... Hatton was the undefeated British superstar, and Floydie just fought De La Hoya not to long before, but his fight with Hatton couldn't even do a million ppv buys..

And whendetermining who is the biggest draw during any particular time, you have to look at the most recent figures. What has happened within the past 1-2 years 09.. Pacquiao was the draw.. Pacquiao was bringing in more revenue. Was more active. And Floyd wants Pac belt... bytch
 
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He had sold more than Floyd/Hatton too... Hatton was the undefeated British superstar, and Floydie just fought De La Hoya not to long before, but his fight with Hatton couldn't even do a million ppv buys..

And whendetermining who is the biggest draw during any particular time, you have to look at the most recent figures. What has happened within the past 1-2 years 09.. Pacquiao was the draw.. Pacquiao was bringing in more revenue. Was more active. And Floyd wants Pac belt... bytch

OK so in your mind Manny was the bigger star.

And then Pacquiao turned down 50-50 because giving blood made him weak. I'm sure you supported that.
 

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OK so in your mind Manny was the bigger star.

And then Pacquiao turned down 50-50 because giving blood made him weak. I'm sure you supported that.

Floyd turned down giving Manny his cuttoff a date for unlimited blood withdrawals..

In 2011 Floyd turned down 50/50 and regused to co promote with top rank, even after Pac agreed to all testing... that bytch didn't want the fight.. im sure you supporte that and rather watch Floydie fight Ortiz and washed up Cotto
 
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Floyd turned down giving Manny his cuttoff a date for unlimited blood withdrawals..

In 2011 Floyd turned down 50/50 and regused to co promote with top rank, even after Pac agreed to all testing... that bytch didn't want the fight.. im sure you supporte that and rather watch Floydie fight Ortiz and washed up Cotto
Why did Manny need 30 days?
 

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Oh I see. In order to take tests one opponent needs to have worked with a PED chemist.

No, but at least thats room enough for suspicion... remember that's how OSDT in boxing came about, because Floyd and his faggit daddy were suspicious of Pac, but for no reason other than Pac being great in the ring
 
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No, but at least thats room enough for suspicion... remember that's how OSDT in boxing came about, because Floyd and his faggit daddy were suspicious of Pac, but for no reason other than being great in the ring
Ahh I like that one even better: in order to give tests you must have suspicion. I wonder why commissions have been doing tests for years. I guess they feel every fighter is suspicious.
 

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Ahh I like that one even better: in order to give tests you must have suspicion. I wonder why commissions have been doing tests for years. I guess they feel every fighter is suspicious.
Yea lets pretend like OSDT is just like any test..The commission NEVER required fighters to submit an unlimited amount of blood leading up to a fight..
Im done with your bytch ass..
 
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