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I'm in and from Dallas and have no problems saying Romo will never win us shiit.

I voiced here that we should've started over this year and dumped Romo.
 

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I'm in and from Dallas and have no problems saying Romo will never win us shiit.

I voiced here that we should've started over this year and dumped Romo.
and who would you have at QB right now over Romo?
 

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and who would you have at QB right now over Romo?

I'd rather go 1-15 again then have Romo at QB. I don't care about half-assed seasons with him. We ain't gon win shiit

I'd rather get a real franchise QB in the draft. But Jerry won't allow that so fukk it.
 

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It's not racism by the Packers. It's built-in racism from the system. Not starting for the better NFL teams is 1 thing but not being good enough
to be a backup is bull. Colt McCoy and David Carr are backups and it's not debatable that Vince is better than them. Vince is better than 1/3 of the starters right now.
This is the retarded shyt that keeps fukkihg y'all up.

So Vince Young is only better than 1/3 of the starters in your words. Answer this then: what's the gain in starting him, since those same bottom third of QB's are always at risk of being replaced anyway? Like I said, Vince could get a backup job and it would still piss you off.

Shiiit, Vince is better than Fez, but is my team gonna have any realistic dreams of winning anything with VY? No, so fukk him, might as well draft or sign someone else who has a chance.
 

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*sigh* The evaluation of black QB's vs white QB's is different. Of course teams want to win, but there's a reason why the old boys club exists in professional sports whether it be GM's, head coaches, players, etc. Even though teams want to win at all costs they still recycle the same loser, white coaches. They do the same thing with QBs. Anyone with a brain could see that. Black QBs are judged differently, period.

Shaun King said it himself and McNabb agreed. These are guys that have experienced first hand what I've been saying: “Any franchise Caucasian quarterback will get unlimited opportunities to realize their potential".

We got a Rooney Rule and clowns are telling me that teams care most about winning and would never let racism cloud their judgement.

Like I said, it's not about VY. If Jay Cutler is black, he's either holding a clipboard or is out of football. Is Geno going to get as many chances as Mark Sanchez? Gabbert is still starting! :dwillhuh:

Gabbert didn't get replaced yet simply because they might very well be in the Bridgewater /Boyd sweepstakes. The cism is clearly there :dry:

You kept giving Fez chances yourself you hypocrite :heh:

Geno's gonna get one year, maybe less than 8 starts. Why? The coach would rather die with his own QB than develop someone else's.

That, and if the Jets are as bad as we think they'll be, Geno AND Fez will get replaced... by a Black QB.
 

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He should be starting in the league...

Vince Young is easily better than whatever the Jets and Bills are starting at QB this season...
but what is the point in starting him, especially when the Jets and Bills have 2 Black QB's?!?! They're going in a different direction.

Besides mediocrity, what would we gain from VY starting? Hell, the Bills HAD VY in camp and cut him, and that's a team that would take a bullshyt playoff run right about now.

Is Vince Young winning me a Superbowl? No.
Is Vince Young winning me Bridgewater? No.
So fukk em.
 

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Don't care about VY, but why exactly are you, as a white dude, trying to set what the acceptable parameters of a race discussion is? Also you're showing yourself using a bullshyt term like the race card.
THIS thread is all about vince young. hes had chances. this has exactly zero to due with race. the phrase "race card" was interjected into this thread exactly 3 posts up from mine (post #121), by the dude i was responding to. i have mentioned literally zero other black qbs in this thread other than vince young. using him as a basis for a racist agenda vs the nfl doesnt hold any water, because vince young, who THIS thread is all about, has had plenty of chances. its a horseshyt argument
 

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but what is the point in starting him, especially when the Jets and Bills have 2 Black QB's?!?! They're going in a different direction.

Besides mediocrity, what would we gain from VY starting? Hell, the Bills HAD VY in camp and cut him, and that's a team that would take a bullshyt playoff run right about now.

Is Vince Young winning me a Superbowl? No.
Is Vince Young winning me Bridgewater? No.
So fukk em.
It's not just about VY, it's about the plight of black qb's in general. There is a shorter leach for them. VY may not be a starter right now but he should be a backup in the league.
 

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but what is the point in starting him, especially when the Jets and Bills have 2 Black QB's?!?! They're going in a different direction.

Besides mediocrity, what would we gain from VY starting? Hell, the Bills HAD VY in camp and cut him, and that's a team that would take a bullshyt playoff run right about now.

Is Vince Young winning me a Superbowl? No.
Is Vince Young winning me Bridgewater? No.
So fukk em.
I agree with you breh...

I'm just saying Vince is better than what we and the Bills have on our rosters yet son is unemployed...
 

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It's not just about VY, it's about the plight of black qb's in general. There is a shorter leach for them. VY may not be a starter right now but he should be a backup in the league.

but again, that's not remotely what you want even if he got that because you'll look at all the teams that need QB overhauls anyway and want Vince to go there. NFL backups, especially on a good team aren't there because they're capable hands. They're there because they're vets who know the playbook and are good for the locker room. The capable QB's usually only exist on mediocre to bad teams, and if you're there, you're only a signal to the FO that the team needs a new QB entirely.
 

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but again, that's not remotely what you want even if he got that because you'll look at all the teams that need QB overhauls anyway and want Vince to go there. NFL backups, especially on a good team aren't there because they're capable hands. They're there because they're vets who know the playbook and are good for the locker room. The capable QB's usually only exist on mediocre to bad teams, and if you're there, you're only a signal to the FO that the team needs a new QB entirely.
Naw I won't say Vince should be a starter right now but he is backup material and has earned his stripes. And you don't see many seasoned Vet backups in the league like in the past, it's just usually a young white guy who the head coach would like to give another chance to.
 

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It's not just about VY, it's about the plight of black qb's in general. There is a shorter leach for them. VY may not be a starter right now but he should be a backup in the league.
Why SHOULD he be a backup right now?
Y'all dudes kill me with this shyt. He's had PLENTY of chances yet never stuck.

MAybe y'all need to realize he isn't as good as you think/want him to be.
 

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Naw I won't say Vince should be a starter right now but he is backup material and has earned his stripes. And you don't see many seasoned Vet backups in the league like in the past, it's just usually a young white guy who the head coach would like to give another chance to.
And? What is your point? Where are all these young white guys getting that many more chances than these young black guys?

If white qbs are getting drafted 8:1 then it would saythatthere area ton more white qbs that aren't getting a second/third chance or not even a first chance
 

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It IS about Vince young, but dudes like you are turning it in to something it is not.

How can you be so delusional.

STOP using VY as your argument for racism and maybe you will have a better chance at a decent argument.

We all know there isn't equality in job hiring, and all that, in the real world. But professional sports is NOT the real world. It's big business, and shouldn't be compared with basic office jobs or the like.

If a team feels that they have a better chance in winning with a black qb then that is what they are gonna use. Look at all the black qbs in the nfl right now. Look how many have been drafted early. Teams, coaches, gms,etc can't afford to be racist. They won't keep there jobs if they lose.

How are sports insulated from the societies they operate in? The history of all major sports leagues runs against the idea they are some sort of utopia where race doesn't factor and merit is the only deciding factor.

You do realize the numbers of black QB's in the league is unprecedented right? The number of black players in the NFL has stayed constant for decades yet suddenly theres a big increase in black QBs at both college and NFL level. How do you account for this? If professional sports is "not the real world" and winning is the only criteria in roster evaluation, why did it take so long to see this number of black QB's( still not a huge number of starters).
 
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