Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

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ALEX ARIZA TALKS MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO: "THE OPPONENT THAT WE HAVE NOW...I'VE BEEN IN HARDER FIGHTS"
By Ben Thompson | February 27, 2015


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BT: Alex, after six years, are you surprised that the fight is finally going to happen?


AA: I'm very surprised. I didn't think it would happen. I really didn't. I thought there was no way they were going to be able to deal with Bob [Arum].


BT: At one point, it definitely seemed like Bob Arum was heading down a familiar path of pulling the plug and putting the blame on Floyd. What do you think was different this time around during negotiations?


AA: I think we set things in motion, to be honest with you. Once we were able to really put things on front street with the video at the movie premiere, you had everybody starting to ask questions. Other people in the media, Stephen A. Smith on First Take, just everybody was really starting to ask questions. I think we kind of threw a wrench in Bob's plans and people started asking about this mystery contract that never existed. When our opponent was going around saying that he signed the contract, Floyd went and put everything on blast to find out that nothing was signed and there wasn't even a contract drawn up. And Michael Koncz is, you know, liars and thieves will fukking turn on each other, so he turned and blamed it on Bob and said they're just repeating what Bob told them. Floyd really took control of the situation. Bob was checked and told to sit down, shut up, and stay out of the way. That's why this fight is happening and that's why the fans are going to finally get what they deserve.


BT: You're in the unique position of being someone that's been on both sides of the fence. At first, you thought maybe Floyd didn't want the fight, but then, I think it was maybe 4 years ago, you started placing all the blame on Bob Arum. What changed your mind during that 6-year span?


AA: I think originally, just like everybody else, I bought into the whole idea that Floyd didn't want to fight us, but then after the whole thing was made up about Manny being scared of needles and Manny doesn't like his blood taken, it was just one excuse after another after another. I knew none of that was true, so I could just see that it was Bob constantly coming up with these ridiculous excuses. It was always something. We all knew it was Bob, but what could I or anyone on the team do at the time? I did that one interview with you years ago, telling everyone that it was Bob preventing the fight, but I could only say and do so much at the time. This time, not having to worry about the repercussions of Bob blocking me out of camp or not letting me get to my fighter or having guards at the gym where they won't let me in, I could speak more freely. Now that I'm on this side, I could be honest and upfront about things and not have to worry about any ramifications that might prevent me from working with my fighter because Floyd is the boss and that's how it is. He runs the show. He's nobody's puppet and he doesn't buy into what this guy or that guy will tell him to do. Nobody tells Floyd what to do. He tells other people what to do, so there was nothing for me to fear being on this side.


BT: You were still with Manny when he suffered that devastating knockout loss to Juan Manuel Marquez. He's had three fights since then. Do you think he's the same fighter that he was prior to that loss?


AA: You know, if you talk to the trainers and fighters who know this sport, there's a reason why they're all picking Floyd to win. For me, the guy that I trained five years ago, the guy that was walking through walls and that was literally breaking bones with shots and comatizing people with single shots, the opponent that we have now is a shell of that guy. I know this sounds crazy, I mean, you'd think I'd be nervous, but I feel confident about the program that we have, the way it's evolved and the way that's it progressed. For me, I think I've been in harder fights, to be honest with you. Listen Ben, it's like this, there's a reason why you have guys like Amir Khan, Chavez Jr., Mikey Garcia, Marcos Maidana, Robert Garcia, I mean, there's a reason why these guys know Floyd will win, and it's not because of my strength & conditioning program. It's because Floyd is already a very skilled, mentally strong, very methodical strategist. But in addition to all of that, these guys, that have all picked Floyd to win, have trained with me and have been through my program. They know that not only do I have a fighter that's more skilled than the opponent, but there's no doubt that he'll also be more physically prepared than the opponent as well because they've all been through that. Probably every one of them have had Fight of the Year performances at some point when they were working with me and they all exceeded their own expectations of what they thought they could do. I think they all know that it's just going to compliment everything that Floyd does and the advantages he already has. I think, like I said, that's why trainers and fighters are picking us to win because I think they're seeing just a complete package. It's a numbers thing. When you look at both fighters and you add up the names of the opponents that one fighter has had in his last three or four fights and then you look at our fighter, just look a the level of competition that they had. I mean, it's just very hard for me to see where our weaknesses are in this fight versus our opponent's weaknesses.


BE SURE TO CHECK BACK SOON FOR MUCH MORE FROM STRENGTH & CONDITIONING COACH ALEX ARIZA

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@seemorecizzy Floyd sipping on Ariza Shakes now breh:banderas:



He coming in the ring on May 2nd in Prison shape:ohlawd:



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What's this!?

Could it be!?

THE

The Olympic Gold Medal Winning :banderas:


Super Six Tournament Winning :whew:


168lb Division Cleaning (unlike these pretty boys we beat the best in our division)



Generic EuroCac Destroying :merchant:


Light Heavyweight Champion Defeating :smugbiden:


2014 ESPY Fighter of the Year™ Nominee :umad:


#2 Pound for Pound fighter in the World :mjpls:



The Greatest Super Middleweight of all time :sas2:


Ain't lost a fight since he lost his virginity. :ooh:


Mr Don't need titles because I run 168 and I'm The People's Champion :sog:


"Andre Ward is not God but he is something similar" Roberto Duran :wow:


Andre "Son of God" Ward :ohlawd: using weights?



Miss me with that boxers don't lift shyt you spitting :camby: the very same nikka you dikkride was doing heavy dumb bell press in front of my eyes at Red Brick gym in '01 nikka. Every boxer that can afford one has a S & C coach and they do use weights. Cleans/Squats/Deads light/med weight focusing on explosive movements.

He's weight training is light

like I said the type of weight training a football player or other atheltes would do is not comparable to what a boxer does

one picture of Ward do some light lifting

does not mean boxer's are into weight lifting

there's reason why boxers don't have the bulky bodies that come from heavy lifting

except for bums like jeff lacy

Roy Jones never lifted weights to get his physique

ALSO WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO ARIZA'S PRORGAM
 

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He's weight training is light

like I said the type of weight training a football player or other atheltes would do is not comparable to what a boxer does

one picture of Ward do some light lifting

does not mean boxer's are into weight lifting

Every boxer that can afford one has a S & C coach and they do use weights. Cleans/Squats/Deads light/med weight focusing on explosive movements.

Are you slow or some shyt. :dwillhuh: Who tf is talking about football players :why: I'm talking about boxers using weights, they do. That's it. I'm not talking about football players. :camby:
 

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He's weight training is light

like I said the type of weight training a football player or other atheltes would do is not comparable to what a boxer does

one picture of Ward do some light lifting

does not mean boxer's are into weight lifting
Boxers have learned and continue to learn the value of a good S&C program. If it adds to functional strength, then it's worth doing. Squatting and deadlifting are at the core of that. College wrestlers do intense weight lifting that provides them functional strength and endurance.

I saw a video of GGG doing push/pull with a sled over and over. He wasn't just born with that strength. He's cultivated it through hard work, which involves lifting. They just don't do bullshyt that doesn't help them in their sport. Football players can attest to that.

I heard Shannon Sharpe say that he never did bicep work because it didn't help him block linebackers or d-linemen or push off at the line. He would only do triceps exercises because he need that strength. And basketball players almost never bench press. But they do deadlift and front squat.

Weight lifting has its place in boxing. Especially if a guy is trying to move up in weight responsibly.

Btw, here's the GGG video:



Edit: 225 lb squat isn't light for a guy at 168.
 

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Roy Jones never lifted weights to get his physique

You make this too easy for me :ohlawd:



ALSO WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO ARIZA'S PRORGAM

He's a S& C coach, they helps athletes gain strength and explosiveness without sacrificing speed and endurance. :krs: via many methods :krs: one of them happens to be......................weights :krs:
 

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ALEX ARIZA TALKS MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO: "THE OPPONENT THAT WE HAVE NOW...I'VE BEEN IN HARDER FIGHTS"
By Ben Thompson | February 27, 2015


alexariza4.jpg





BT: Alex, after six years, are you surprised that the fight is finally going to happen?


AA: I'm very surprised. I didn't think it would happen. I really didn't. I thought there was no way they were going to be able to deal with Bob [Arum].


BT: At one point, it definitely seemed like Bob Arum was heading down a familiar path of pulling the plug and putting the blame on Floyd. What do you think was different this time around during negotiations?


AA: I think we set things in motion, to be honest with you. Once we were able to really put things on front street with the video at the movie premiere, you had everybody starting to ask questions. Other people in the media, Stephen A. Smith on First Take, just everybody was really starting to ask questions. I think we kind of threw a wrench in Bob's plans and people started asking about this mystery contract that never existed. When our opponent was going around saying that he signed the contract, Floyd went and put everything on blast to find out that nothing was signed and there wasn't even a contract drawn up. And Michael Koncz is, you know, liars and thieves will fukking turn on each other, so he turned and blamed it on Bob and said they're just repeating what Bob told them. Floyd really took control of the situation. Bob was checked and told to sit down, shut up, and stay out of the way. That's why this fight is happening and that's why the fans are going to finally get what they deserve.


BT: You're in the unique position of being someone that's been on both sides of the fence. At first, you thought maybe Floyd didn't want the fight, but then, I think it was maybe 4 years ago, you started placing all the blame on Bob Arum. What changed your mind during that 6-year span?


AA: I think originally, just like everybody else, I bought into the whole idea that Floyd didn't want to fight us, but then after the whole thing was made up about Manny being scared of needles and Manny doesn't like his blood taken, it was just one excuse after another after another. I knew none of that was true, so I could just see that it was Bob constantly coming up with these ridiculous excuses. It was always something. We all knew it was Bob, but what could I or anyone on the team do at the time? I did that one interview with you years ago, telling everyone that it was Bob preventing the fight, but I could only say and do so much at the time. This time, not having to worry about the repercussions of Bob blocking me out of camp or not letting me get to my fighter or having guards at the gym where they won't let me in, I could speak more freely. Now that I'm on this side, I could be honest and upfront about things and not have to worry about any ramifications that might prevent me from working with my fighter because Floyd is the boss and that's how it is. He runs the show. He's nobody's puppet and he doesn't buy into what this guy or that guy will tell him to do. Nobody tells Floyd what to do. He tells other people what to do, so there was nothing for me to fear being on this side.


BT: You were still with Manny when he suffered that devastating knockout loss to Juan Manuel Marquez. He's had three fights since then. Do you think he's the same fighter that he was prior to that loss?


AA: You know, if you talk to the trainers and fighters who know this sport, there's a reason why they're all picking Floyd to win. For me, the guy that I trained five years ago, the guy that was walking through walls and that was literally breaking bones with shots and comatizing people with single shots, the opponent that we have now is a shell of that guy. I know this sounds crazy, I mean, you'd think I'd be nervous, but I feel confident about the program that we have, the way it's evolved and the way that's it progressed. For me, I think I've been in harder fights, to be honest with you. Listen Ben, it's like this, there's a reason why you have guys like Amir Khan, Chavez Jr., Mikey Garcia, Marcos Maidana, Robert Garcia, I mean, there's a reason why these guys know Floyd will win, and it's not because of my strength & conditioning program. It's because Floyd is already a very skilled, mentally strong, very methodical strategist. But in addition to all of that, these guys, that have all picked Floyd to win, have trained with me and have been through my program. They know that not only do I have a fighter that's more skilled than the opponent, but there's no doubt that he'll also be more physically prepared than the opponent as well because they've all been through that. Probably every one of them have had Fight of the Year performances at some point when they were working with me and they all exceeded their own expectations of what they thought they could do. I think they all know that it's just going to compliment everything that Floyd does and the advantages he already has. I think, like I said, that's why trainers and fighters are picking us to win because I think they're seeing just a complete package. It's a numbers thing. When you look at both fighters and you add up the names of the opponents that one fighter has had in his last three or four fights and then you look at our fighter, just look a the level of competition that they had. I mean, it's just very hard for me to see where our weaknesses are in this fight versus our opponent's weaknesses.


BE SURE TO CHECK BACK SOON FOR MUCH MORE FROM STRENGTH & CONDITIONING COACH ALEX ARIZA

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@seemorecizzy Floyd sipping on Ariza Shakes now breh:banderas:



He coming in the ring on May 2nd in Prison shape:ohlawd:



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*Remixes Sippin on Syrup to Sippin on Shakes*

This probably has a lot to do with @LeVraiPapi saying that Floyd is now leaner and his shoulders have widened. He's going through a full cyc.... I mean year with Ariza shakes :sas2:, definitely not the same kind of shakes that can be found at your local Mickey D's, If we get PBF on May 2, I'm going to send this nikka some hate mail and tell him that he should have had these shakes years ago.
 
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Are you slow or some shyt. :dwillhuh: Who tf is talking about football players :why: I'm talking about boxers using weights, they do. That's it. I'm not talking about football players. :camby:

nevermind dawg

The fact of the matter is you equated the weights to Floyd having increasing PUNCHING POWER

and it is just false, there's no way lifting weights will increase punching power

I already stated weight training in boxing is different than what people call "weight lifting"

Also Ariza's strength and conditioning is not about that at all
 

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Dan Rafael Chat Wrap 2/27:

Mayweather - Pacquiao news:
- Mayweather-Pacquiao was harder to make than Lewis-Tyson.
- Tickets are not available for Mayweather-Pacquiao yet. They have not done a seating chart or priced seats yet. The seats that are "available" are brokers pre-selling tickets that they hope they can secure tickets (when released) to fill those orders.
- Very likely there will be little to no public sale of tickets for Mayweather-Pacquiao.
- As what usually happens, Mayweather and Pacquiao's camp will be consulted on judges, and then the commission makes the final decision.
- There will be 7 fights on the card, 3 televised on the PPV.
- No confirmation yet if this PPV will be shown in theaters.
- He was told the gloves negotiation was done very easily and early on in the negotiations.
- No word on how much closed circuit tickets will be. Would not be surprised if they were $200. If the closed circuit was as big as it was for Mayweather vs. Hatton, there will be over 30,000 seats sold.
- Believes that fighting each other helps both fighters legacy, even if they lose. See: Hearns, Leonard, Hagler, and Duran. Fight the best and it adds to your legacy.
- Bob Arum and the MGM do not have a good relationship. It was likely one of the issues that had to be overcome in negotiations.
- From those involved, Manny and Floyd meeting at the Heat game wasn't critical to the fight getting made, but it definitely sped the process up.
- Arum and Haymon met face to face at Moonves' house in Beverly Hills. It was critical to getting the fight made. Les Moonves is credited as being the hero in helping get the fight made.
 
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Boxers have learned and continue to learn the value of a good S&C program. If it adds to functional strength, then it's worth doing. Squatting and deadlifting are at the core of that. College wrestlers do intense weight lifting that provides them functional strength and endurance.


I saw a video of GGG doing push/pull with a sled over and over. He wasn't just born with that strength. He's cultivated it through hard work, which involves lifting. They just don't do bullshyt that doesn't help them in their sport. Football players can attest to that.

I heard Shannon Sharpe say that he never did bicep work because it didn't help him block linebackers or d-linemen or push off at the line. He would only do triceps exercises because he need that strength. And basketball players almost never bench press. But they do deadlift and front squat.

Weight lifting has its place in boxing. Especially if a guy is trying to move up in weight responsibly.

Btw, here's the GGG video:



Edit: 225 lb squat isn't light for a guy at 168.



GGG is not weight lifting in that video

I didn't say boxers didn't use weights at all

Weight Lifting is for building mass

which you don't need to do as boxer because the oxygen needed for big muscles will cause you to fatigue early in a fight

also lifting weights is not why GGG has punching power

lifting weights does not increase punching power
 
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