Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!
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Manny is not a sparing partner :trollbron:Fighthype says it's day 4 and Floyd is STOPPING sparing partners
Pacquiao Not Bothered By Tactics Over Sparring Partners
Posted by: Boxing Clever on 3/5/2015
Los Angeles - Filipino boxing star Manny Pacquiao has matured a lot since his six-round knockout loss to Mexican boxer Juan Manuel Marquez in 2012.
"He has learned a big lesson out of that. He became more cautious and has matured a lot as a fighter," says Restituto "Buboy" Fernandez, a long-time associate and the assistant trainer for Pacquiao.
Fernandez said Pacquiao was winning the fight and was about to finish off Marquez when he became hasty.
"He is a fearless fighter inside the ring. In his desire to end the fight in a convincing fashion just to make the fans happy, he went for the kill in the dying seconds of the sixth round. And he paid dearly for it," recalled Fernandez.
Now, Fernandez says, Pacquiao has remained ferocious but is no longer a careless fighter.
"His punches now are sharper and harder than before. We've been training together for years and I can say it based on actual experience," said Fernandez, who suffered a cut on his mouth during the punch mitts session at the Fortune Gym on Tuesday.
Several times during the punch mitts session, Fernandez was dazed due to non-stop pounding from the Pinoy boxing superstar.
"I was accidentally caught with his left upper cut. His punches were controlled but coming from someone like Manny Pacquiao, you'd really be hurt," Fernandez said.
Fernandez believes that Pacquiao's barrage of powerful punches will eventually break down Floyd Mayweather's defence.
The unbeaten welterweight Mayweather (47-0, 26KOs) faces eight-division champion Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38KOs) in Las Vegas on May 2 in the richest fight of all time.
"Mayweather has not fought in his entire career a fighter with so much power, speed and a fearless heart like Manny Pacquiao. His defence would be shattered,' Fernandez said.
Meanwhile, Pacquiao was unperturbed by reports that Mayweather's camp was bribing his prospective sparring mates.
"It's okay. I'm not bothered. Coach Freddie (Roach) had already hired a few sparring partners who are Mayweather's look-alike,' Pacquiao said.
"During the fight, there's no other guy atop the ring except the two of us. I know what to do. And that's what we're practising now," Pacquiao said.
Pacquiao vowed to pursue Mayweather relentlessly from pillar to post, adding that "He can run but he cannot hide."
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-not-bothered-by-tactics-over-sparring-partners--88158
Posted by: Boxing Clever on 3/5/2015
Los Angeles - Filipino boxing star Manny Pacquiao has matured a lot since his six-round knockout loss to Mexican boxer Juan Manuel Marquez in 2012.
"He has learned a big lesson out of that. He became more cautious and has matured a lot as a fighter," says Restituto "Buboy" Fernandez, a long-time associate and the assistant trainer for Pacquiao.
Fernandez said Pacquiao was winning the fight and was about to finish off Marquez when he became hasty.
"He is a fearless fighter inside the ring. In his desire to end the fight in a convincing fashion just to make the fans happy, he went for the kill in the dying seconds of the sixth round. And he paid dearly for it," recalled Fernandez.
Now, Fernandez says, Pacquiao has remained ferocious but is no longer a careless fighter.
"His punches now are sharper and harder than before. We've been training together for years and I can say it based on actual experience," said Fernandez, who suffered a cut on his mouth during the punch mitts session at the Fortune Gym on Tuesday.
Several times during the punch mitts session, Fernandez was dazed due to non-stop pounding from the Pinoy boxing superstar.
"I was accidentally caught with his left upper cut. His punches were controlled but coming from someone like Manny Pacquiao, you'd really be hurt," Fernandez said.
Fernandez believes that Pacquiao's barrage of powerful punches will eventually break down Floyd Mayweather's defence.
The unbeaten welterweight Mayweather (47-0, 26KOs) faces eight-division champion Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38KOs) in Las Vegas on May 2 in the richest fight of all time.
"Mayweather has not fought in his entire career a fighter with so much power, speed and a fearless heart like Manny Pacquiao. His defence would be shattered,' Fernandez said.
Meanwhile, Pacquiao was unperturbed by reports that Mayweather's camp was bribing his prospective sparring mates.
"It's okay. I'm not bothered. Coach Freddie (Roach) had already hired a few sparring partners who are Mayweather's look-alike,' Pacquiao said.
"During the fight, there's no other guy atop the ring except the two of us. I know what to do. And that's what we're practising now," Pacquiao said.
Pacquiao vowed to pursue Mayweather relentlessly from pillar to post, adding that "He can run but he cannot hide."
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-not-bothered-by-tactics-over-sparring-partners--88158
Mikeatris
Supreme Mathematik
I could not read all of that because of the videos and emoticons. You did good plagueboiPlease do
You dismissed the notion of FLOYD being able to drop Pacquiao, because according to you, "he has taken better shots from Clottey, Cotto, Mosley and Margarito and kept going."
That's dumb, especially when I mentioned that JMM (who has less power than all of them named) KOd him cold and Bradley (who has no power) hit Pacquiao with the 2nd biggest punch he has ever taken (after the JMM punch)
If Bradley can rock Pacquiao....why dismiss the fact that Floyd, who has more power and is a much more accurate puncher, can possibly do the same or even dropping Pacquiao as well
All the rest of that you typed has 0 relevance to what I was talking about.
:yeahright:
Dont challenge me
Roach Admits Pacquiao Fumble in First Mayweather Talks
Posted by: Edward Chaykovsky on 12/25/2014
By Edward Chaykovsky
Back in 2010, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao were negotiating a highly anticipated welterweight showdown. The two sides were very close to a deal and just about every significant point was agreed upon.
Just when both sides were anticipating a done deal, the negotiations took a serious turn for the worse when Pacquiao rejected Mayweather's contractual demand for a random drug testing protocol.
Pacquiao's refusal effectively crippled the negotiations and led to a lot of questions being raised regarding his incredible run through the weight divisions.
Hall of Fame coach Freddie Roach, who trains Pacquiao, admits his side is to blame for the first round of negotiations falling apart.
Since that time, Pacquiao tried to offer everything, without success, to get Mayweather in the ring - including a full agreement to take part in random drug testing and even a 60-40 split of the profits.
"At first there was a blood problem, Manny not wanting to give blood testing because he didn't like that at first. When we lost our first fight together, he forgot to do the blood testing before the fight, so he had to do it the day before. The commission demanded that he do it the day before. He said 'if I'm going to give blood, I'm not going to be back for three or four days.' He had it in his mind that would make him weak and so forth. He felt that's why he lost that fight. He kind of mentally thought that would make him weak," Roach told HBO's The Fight Game.
"The original negotiations were probably our fault for not going so well, because of the blood issues. After that we offered everything. We even offered a 60-40 split at one time. I think we ok'd that at one time. He just has been silent since that moment, never said nothing and never talks about Manny Pacquiao in fights."
http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-admits-pacquiao-fumble-first-mayweather-talks--85698
You said "why didnt this fight happen 5-6 years ago?". Well, 5-6 years ago was 2009-2010 and Roach is saying point blank that THEY were at fault for negotiations falling through at that time period....not Floyd
Bu-bu-but, you're a "Boxing fan"...you should've read up on that before addressing @Newzz on your Pacquiao stanning shyt
What the fukk?
First off all, "Boxing fan".....you should know that Cotto doesnt have a Junior Middleweight Championship, and secondly, where did you make that shyt up from?
You're gonna just blatantly LIE to me and all of the other Hardcore Boxing Fans on here and that I wasnt gonna respond to this filfth?
Floyd was NEVER in negotiations to fight Cotto and never once brought up Cotto's name
Am I being PUNK'd? Ashton.. is that you?
All this extra shyt, again, has 0 relevance to the topic at han
"Bu-bu-but why didnt Floyd fight undefeated Cotto?"Cotto didnt want to fight Floyd at first, and then was destroyed by Margs before he was able to even get the balls to call Floyd out. Floyd DID want to fight him
"Bu-bu-but, why didnt Floyd fight undefeated Cintron?"And you call yourself a BOXING FAN? You're gonna ask me something stupid like this? REALLY?
"Bu-bu-but, why didnt Floyd fight undefeated The Viper?":yeahright: Mr. "Boxing Fan"....you are aware that while Forrest was losing back to back fights against Mayorga (effectively being twice defeated) at 147, Floyd was still at 135 right?
"Bu-bu-but, why when he fought DLH he weight in at 150 at the weigh-in, how come he does not test his skills at 154?"You're kidding me right?
You gotta be fukkING KIDDING ME
Floyd did duck Punisher and Margs imo, but you do not know very much about Boxing sir. I suggest you learn more about Boxing before trying to get at those who know a LITTLE more about Boxing than you do
I'll give you a A for effort though
but again the blood test is something that Floyd put in place. No one has heard about it really since he started this whole mess. Pac's team did not have to have it done like I said, they get tested right after the fight by the NABC. Also you did not mention that at one time Floyd wanted Pac to have his blood drawn up to a week before the fight. When Pac agreed to the terms, Floyd wanted it then drawn up to the day of the fight, but I guess that slipped through your cracks. If you don't believe me, just go through the several years worth of archives from Eastsideboxing, very respectful site.No one is going to read through all that mess you posted, emoticons, vids and shyt like that. But if you want to give me the short version please feel free. Reading that is like reading a tv guide, no need as long as I know what I want to see.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Well Floyd was scared... He saw what Pacquiao did to Hatton, Oscar, and Cotto (whom Floyd ducked after his victory over Mosely).. His father said he was afraid for his sons life... Floyd couldn't just outright duck Pac, so titleless Floyd Mayweather demanded these extra intrusive unlimited blood tests for Pacquiao to undergo in order to step in the ring, and Pacquiao basically saidI could not read all of that because of the videos and emoticons. You did good plagueboi
No one is going to read through all that mess you posted, emoticons, vids and shyt like that. But if you want to give me the short version please feel free. Reading that is like reading a tv guide, no need as long as I know what I want to see.
"eat a dikk bytch ass nikka"..What you should be asking is why the fight wasn't made after Pac agreed to all those tests way back in 2011, after his victories against Margarito (another guy Floyd ducked), Shane, and Marquez3.. The same year Pacquiao outsold Floyd in ppvs and venue ticket sales.. Why did Floyd go from "all you gotta do is take the test" to "at this point in my career I cant accept less that 100% revenue" "here take this $40 million flat"
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What you should be asking is why the fight wasn't made after Pac agreed to all those tests way back in 2011, after his victories against Margarito (another guy Floyd ducked), Shane, and Marquez3.. The same year Pacquiao outsold Floyd in ppvs and venue ticket sales.. Why did Floyd go from "all you gotta do is take the test" to "at this point in my career I cant accept less that 100% revenue" "here take this $40 million flat"
That IS what he should've asked....but he doesnt know as much about the Pacquiao/Floyd negotiations as you do, so he used the initial time period and got smacked around for it
I would've agreed with him, because THAT part you posted is true
I could not read all of that because of the videos and emoticons. You did good plagueboi
No one is going to read through all that mess you posted, emoticons, vids and shyt like that. But if you want to give me the short version please feel free. Reading that is like reading a tv guide, no need as long as I know what I want to see.
Floyd is the WHOLE reason everyone else is demanding blood tests through USADA/VADA in this era....even Pacquiao
As far as everything else you said, if you're gonna be a Pacquiao stan, you might as well go to the School Of @Black_Jesus to atleast learn something about the guy you're stanning, and the in's and out's of his negotiations with his rival Floyd, because you're wasting our time with these responses
Mikeatris
Supreme Mathematik
I say what I wanna say blood, and if I am wasting your time don't read it simple as that. I like Manny in a 12 rd UD. If that happens then I would love to hear what your responses are going to be. If Floyd wins, then I am wrong. But a lot is no adding up to me and I have followed boxing for yrs now. I do not care who is undefeated or not, there is a clear reason why he took the fight now and not 5-6 yrs ago. I will keep on posting and keep on wasting your time sir. If you don't like it, don't read itThat IS what he should've asked....but he doesnt know as much about the Pacquiao/Floyd negotiations as you do, so he used the initial time period and got smacked around for it
I would've agreed with him, because THAT part you posted is true
As far as everything else you said, if you're gonna be a Pacquiao stan, you might as well go to the School Of @Black_Jesus to atleast learn something about the guy you're stanning, and the in's and out's of his negotiations with his rival Floyd, because you're wasting our time with these responses
That IS what he should've asked....but he doesnt know as much about the Pacquiao/Floyd negotiations as you do, so he used the initial time period and got smacked around for it
I would've agreed with him, because THAT part you posted is true
As far as everything else you said, if you're gonna be a Pacquiao stan, you might as well go to the School Of @Black_Jesus to atleast learn something about the guy you're stanning, and the in's and out's of his negotiations with his rival Floyd, because you're wasting our time with these responses
you know damn well it wasnt 40 million flat. The guarantee was 40 mill and they didnt even get to discuss the split and shyt
Black_Jesus
Superstar
They discussed the split when Koncz went to Floyds gym.. and Floyd wouldn't budge... Floyd went on TV and said himself he has to control 100% of the revenue... Meanwhile Pacquiao was outselling Floyd in ppv and ticket sales that year.. If anybody should've been dictating terms, it was Pacquiao. Now after two losses including a KO, Pac is making atleast DOUBLE what Floydie tried to offer him. Go figureyou know damn well it wasnt 40 million flat. The guarantee was 40 mill and they didnt even get to discuss the split and shyt
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
maidana fought very dirty in the first fight and should have had points deducted at some point. the first ref was terrible so...
You can pick Manny to win...I have no problem with that
You continue to spew this, however, and disregarding the fact that 5-6 years ago Team Pacquiao is the reason it didnt happen. If you're just gonna keep repeating the same mis-information, that's on you
Mac Casper
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I will be