Pan Africanism? Solidarity?

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Ain't you one on the Mount Rushmore of pawgers on here? What do the pawgs have to say?
Dr.Umars burner has been found. :mjgrin:

Truth be told. Now that you brought it up, The pawgs would probably get less push back from the local Ghanaians than black Americans and Caribbeans. :mjlol:
 

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Generalizing. Confirming Bias.

You could have found any clips, tweets for any narrative you chose to advance positive or negative towards pan Africanism. You chose to engage the negative and let this person represent all Africans. You chose stupidity. It's really a choice.
Thousands of likes and retweets and others from the continent agreeing with her take. For some reason, you think the positive tweets are the ones that do the most numbers. Clearly, on that app, there’s an anti American leftist slant and those are the tweets that get the most widespread promotion. If you think someone has to type in the twitter search box “anti-black American comments from the diaspora” than you don’t know how ppl really feel and don’t know the true temperature. I found that tweet by happenstance. Most of these tweets do numbers. That’s their intent. :hubie:
 

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Dr.Umars burner has been found. :mjgrin:

Truth be told. Now that you brought it up, The pawgs would probably get less push back from the local Ghanaians than black Americans and Caribbeans. :mjlol:
Statements from pawgs like this would get less push back from both local Ghanaians AND Black Americans AND Caribbeans.
 

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Man stop it. Might work for someone who hasn't been there but there is plenty of self-hate and "other" worship.


Good podcast that explains how/why places like Ghana have poor institutions like ding ding ding land rights

And it is designed that way on purpose.

Plenty of other places not only in Africa but the world where expats from the "west" move to the "global south" and it causes minimal friction because the institutions are strong and not willfully designed to extract value in a one-way relationship.

Its an awful business environment and they know people look at them as "innocent poor natives" so they use that to their advantage to deceive and scam.
yea this def seems to be the case. from government officials to everyday locals it seems like you constantly have to be worried about getting finessed. I saw a video where a dude got finessed out of money while renewing a visa at an official government office. Operating in an environment where you can't even trust lawyers and civil servants must be wild
There seems to be a lot of tomfoolery under the guise of “returning to your roots”. There seems to be a culture of fraud and finessing and nobody to regulate it. And then in the twittersphere and new media, the narrative gets presented as Neo-American colonialism instead of highlight how tricky and convoluted land rights become in West Africa. Folks are being duped on one side, and the locals out there who are truly getting screwed, aren’t really trying to dialogue with someone they essentially view as a foreign invader. It was doomed from the start, because of a lack of clarity and honesty. Yeah, I remember hearing about JTs ventures in Africa.
 

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Thousands of likes and retweets and others from the continent agreeing with her take. For some reason, you think the positive tweets are the ones that do the most numbers. Clearly, on that app, there’s an anti American leftist slant and those are the tweets that get the most widespread promotion. If you think someone has to type in the twitter search box “anti-black American comments from the diaspora” than you don’t know how ppl really feel and don’t know the true temperature. I found that tweet by happenstance. Most of these tweets do numbers. That’s their intent. :hubie:
I can go on there and find a tweet saying the opposite with a thousand likes too but it wouldn't mean more to you than this one because it.does not confirm something you already believed.

It's a stupid game you play. :mjlol:

Nothing is clear on apps that cater to your algorithms via viewing history. What is clear is you prefer to think that these kind of people represent Africans the most. That's your fail. You gonna carry that with you. If that's a real person she is the other side of the same coin as you.
 
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Generalizing. Confirming Bias.

You could have found any clips, tweets for any narrative you chose to advance positive or negative towards pan Africanism. You chose to engage the negative and let this person represent all Africans. You chose stupidity. It's really a choice.


Pan Africanism is dead. Solidarity ingroup is also dead by the same logic. All of what you see from twitter is 100% represented and not curated by algorithm
 

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Furthermore, the mixed population in these english speaking countries is growing. So you all need to sort out your collective lives because as a group you're moving confused

Are you breeding out or passport brothering/sistering?
Most of the black ppl from the west who are participating in the return home movement, don’t seem to be passport bro/sis sexpats. Whenever these situations come up where black ppl from the west are getting killed and or finessed, there always seem to be this “well, how were they moving in Africa? Did they come correct?” almost victim blaming tone. There’s always an assumption that it’s either imported colonialism or shades of Liberia where western blacks are trying to establish some caste system. Like, how is the worst ALWAYS assumed of the few black ppl who are still trying to hang on to this idealistic Pan-Africanism, when they fall prey to the wolves out there? :jbhmm:
 

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Pan Africanism is dead. Solidarity ingroup is also dead by the same logic. All of what you see from twitter is 100% represented and not curated by algorithm
Nothing is dead. Any Black person that wished to can carry on the legacy can. The ones that don't don't have to. They also can't keep trying to toe tag and body bag the shyt. It's relevant to those who have the same values it fostered. Whoever feels differently need not interfere.
 

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Nothing is dead. Any Black person that wished to can carry on the legacy can. The ones that don't don't have to. They also can't keep trying to toe tag and body bag the shyt. It's relevant to those who have the same values it fostered. Whoever feels differently need not interfere.

This whole thread might be related to homosexuality.
A certain thread starter is into white gay men.
Truth
 

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Pan Africanism is dead. Solidarity ingroup is also dead by the same logic. All of what you see from twitter is 100% represented and not curated by algorithm
Like literally. The tweets represent at least partly, truer sentiments from the ground/grassroots level, then the perfectly curated idealistic pan-Africanist slant we see on here and other forums. Ppl are pissed and everyday ppl on the continent aren’t really thinking about things from some performative “we’re all one” standpoint. I can’t even fault them. They’re just living their lives. It’s the folks who put the battery in the back of expats and sell them an idea. Those are the ones I fault.
 

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Like literally. The tweets represent at least partly, truer sentiments from the ground/grassroots level, then the perfectly curated idealistic pan-Africanist slant we see on here and other forums. Ppl are pissed and everyday ppl on the continent aren’t really thinking about things from some performative “we’re all one” standpoint. I can’t even fault them. They’re just living their lives. It’s the folks who put the battery in the back of expats and sell them an idea. Those are the ones I fault.

You know there are possibly hundreds of thousands of blk homosexuals in Africa right?
Are your anti africa sentiments related to your sexuality?
 

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Public policy is about planning ahead of time. Public policy is an important discussion to have when planning a community before that community exists. You do not wait for the pandemic or recession or flood or social unrest to be at your doorstep before having the discussion.


Case in point is the sloppy plan by the chief in the story in this thread. Good intentions poor planning. Same could be said for the lady politician's plan to stop public defication by fining poor people in the npr story. Good intentions , but poor planning.


Before enacting public policy you need to predict the affect on existing community stakeholders and plan accordingly. That's why a public policy of inviting folks from a foreign place, with foreign values is worth discussing. Even here in America, they don't just drop Ukrainians or Afghanis in Cleveland and send them on their way. There are integration programs, citizenship programs to indoctrinate them on local values, meetings with lawyers to discuss estate planning, language lessons, social workers, etc.


I'm not seeing any of this incredibly necessary planning in the Ghana project based on the story above or the overarching year of return concept. The mere fact than guns may have been pulled out in a petty rural dispute makes that evident.


As a sidenote, you don't need seats in parliament to control an economy or political system as an outsider.

Look at the indians in Kenya/Uganda/TZ or whites in SA, or Lebanese in ivory Coast or Arabs in the sahel or Chinese in Namibia. These folks have incredible pull over their societies and marginal representation in govt.



A single American after a mediocre career here in America has more economic capital than most of the individuals in these other foreign groups on day one of arriving, especially when you consider their access to low interest American debt markets. That's more than enough to manipulate domestic affairs to the detriment of natives .
I mean, the whole idea was presented with a bow on the package and an “I’m sorry note” from the Ghanaian government. An American who had a mediocre career back here, having more capital and pull then the other non-black groups, is kinda the point. It was presented as a “repatriation, come back to your roots/we’re sorry for selling you off” movement. To now, after the fact have folks look at these populations as westerners who are taking advantage of their pull, is kinda where the problem lies and why many folks here looked at this from jump and were like “I’m good…”.
 

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You know there are possibly hundreds of thousands of blk homosexuals in Africa right?
Are your anti africa sentiments related to your sexuality?
You’ll be hiding your hand a few hours later. “My bad breh, I was just talking”. Seems to be dejavu in every thread.
 
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