Pandemic P says NBA players can make NFL easier than the vice versa

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‘Pandemic P’ old news , dude balled in the ‘21 playoffs especially after kahwi got injured

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Draymond has ultra-elite basketball IQ. Something like that takes so long to develop, that's a high-end skill in itself.

Pat Bev, Simmons, and Draymond all have elite defensive understanding too beyond just having physical gifts.

Simmons, Draymond, Westbrook are all elite passers which is another skill.

All of them can handle the ball which at that level takes a LONG time to learn. We can say their handles ain't the best compared to other NBA players, but put a random person in their slot and they ain't gonna get a dribble back to their hand without that shyt getting swatted out. Just the fact that they're able to put the ball on the ground against NBA defenders takes time to get right.

Dort and Pat Bev aren't elite shooters, but it still takes a lot of work to shoot even at that level.

Come on now. You wrote this up like they're all super heroes. Simmons and Westbrook ain't elite passers. Draymond is a product of the W's system and familiarity with Steph and Klay. I'm not letting you get that off. Pat Bev is just scrappy. He ain't no elite defensive wizard and neither is Simmons. I've seen them ALL handle the ball and none of the people I listed are beating the press with their handling except Simmons.

Two main issues are that football players don't have NBA height, and you have to start developing NBA skill sets earlier to be elite (unless you're really tall, which no NFL players are).

Young guys who have legit chance to be elite at both usually choose bball. Longer career and less potential for fukking up your brain.





TBH, a lot of Zion's injuries might be worse in NBA than NFL. In the NFL on grass and without the need to jump as much, his own weight doesn't work against him.

The number one thing needed to play in the NFL is mental toughness. We just saw a scenario where Zion was dunking in pre-game of the play in, but sat out and CJ was subbing him in his press conference. That NEVER happens in football. There's zero load management. If you're having a shytty game you can't free throw line flop your way to a win.

Do you know what NBA players have against them when it comes to football? Their height. They're tall and slim and weak. Football is a game of leverage that most NBA players are at an extreme disadvantage. The best most of them could be in an NFL WR and most of them ain't getting off the line of scrimmage. KD couldn't bench 225 once. Darius Slay is throwing KD into the water bottles just to prove a point. What y'all think Steph is doing out there? Devin Booker? Nah. Jokic or Luka? fukk nah. Even with the smaller cats in the NBA, to be that size in the NFL, you need to be able to jump out the bed and run a 4.4. Trae Young ain't fast. Who y'all think Spencer Dinwiddie is running away from? Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson would be handing out water bottles and holding helmets. For this argument to work y'all gotta pretend every NBA player is Bron or Malone or Giannis and that they'd be exactly like Antonio Gates.

The super funny part is the NBA players don't even use their height to their advantage in their own sport. They're ALL shooters now. There's maybe three or four players who can actually work someone in the post where their height matters. There's more NFL players that can hold a 8-12 position on an NBA team than NBA players could play more than 15 snaps as a NFL player.

The only thing this argument ever proves is that most of y'all have no idea what it means to be a really good football player. PG ain't even play football in high school so how the fukk would he know anyway?
 

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And football players have a better chance of making it to the mlb

Deion sanders made it to mlb and played in the world series while mj the goat couldn’t make it out of the minor leagues

Get that baseball money
MJ hadn’t played baseball since he was a kid lol
 

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Come on now. You wrote this up like they're all super heroes. Simmons and Westbrook ain't elite passers.

They have better passing skills than well over 99% of people that ever pick up a basketball. Claiming they're in the NBA due to athleticism alone was ridiculous.




Draymond is a product of the W's system and familiarity with Steph and Klay. I'm not letting you get that off.

That's just ignorant. Do you want to see the scouting reports from Michigan State and the draft saying that his bball IQ was out of this world, his skill set was extremely well-rounded, and he always makes the players around him better? Those were all written up before he ever met Steph and Klay.




Pat Bev is just scrappy. He ain't no elite defensive wizard and neither is Simmons.

:mjlol:

A few years ago there was a poll where like 15% of NBA players called Beverley the best defender in the league, and you think he got there just by being 6'2" and "scrappy".




I've seen them ALL handle the ball and none of the people I listed are beating the press with their handling except Simmons.

They are FAR better ballhandlers than the average baller not in the NBA. Once again, claiming they got to the NBA just by athleticism and not skill is insane.






The number one thing needed to play in the NFL is mental toughness.

lol - no. The college ranks all the way down to NAIA and Div 3 and Junior College are full of thousands of mentally tough players who simply don't have the next-level athleticism and measurements it takes to make the NFL. 98% of American men have zero chance to make the NFL off height/weight/combine stats alone before anything mental comes into the picture.



We just saw a scenario where Zion was dunking in pre-game of the play in, but sat out and CJ was subbing him in his press conference. That NEVER happens in football. There's zero load management.

:why:

There's load management every single game of the NFL in terms of sitting guys for as many plays as you can get away with to keep them fresh, and once a team wraps up its playoff spot you see it like crazy. Load management doesn't cover entire games until the end of the season because there's only 16 games, not 82. Sitting a player even one game in the NFL is the equivalent of sitting him 5 games in the NBA. Taking a single quarter off in the NFL is like taking an entire game off in the NBA, relatively the # of games in a season.

The biggest difference between NFL/NBA in that regard is that NFL careers are incredibly short compared to NBA careers and peaks are even shorter. So you won't see a situation like Zion where they're saving a player for the future. But in-season there's plenty of load management.




Do you know what NBA players have against them when it comes to football? Their height. They're tall and slim and weak. Football is a game of leverage that most NBA players are at an extreme disadvantage. The best most of them could be in an NFL WR and most of them ain't getting off the line of scrimmage. KD couldn't bench 225 once. Darius Slay is throwing KD into the water bottles just to prove a point. What y'all think Steph is doing out there? Devin Booker? Nah. Jokic or Luka?

What a weird take, no one thinks those guys would be the NFL prospects. That's as if you just named the kickers and the shortest players and laughed at them making the NBA. :russ:

There are heavy-built forwards who could play tight end and, (for the absolute most athletic), defensive end. There are athletic guards who could play wide receiver. There are athletic point guards who could play DB. Not a lot of any of those, but some. Moreso than football players who could make it in the NBA.




I've said over and over again that NFL players are FAR more athletic than NBA players. No one is arguing that most people in the NBA could play NFL. Just that there's a few of them. There are more athletic outliers in the NBA than there are basketball skill outliers in the NFL.
 

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Hes wrong top athletes will excel in either sport...

Moss,Owens,Megatron would be good NBA player or NFL receivers and vice versa...only the top end athletic guys could do it.....
 

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My question is why do basketball players hold on to this tho

It don’t even be the good hoopers who be elite at football, AI and LeBron the only examples I hear

PG couldn’t play the NFL himself, what position would he play?
Hold on to what??

Was he asked a question or brought it up randomly
 
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