PANIC Time: If you're around 30 (flabby and sick) and still single.

[Anothergirl]

I said "most part", but also listed why I think we are arguing based on outdated notions.

Champ keeps saying that marriage isnt the only form of commitment. Lots of these 30 year olds are dating in relationships, not getting married, not having kids, and living the life.

It's not so polarized as you all are making it. You think it is either A.- Hoeing/Not wanting to get married or B.- Get married, stuck, and living a retiree lifestyle. There's a lot of people that arent' doing either A or B.

When you equate happy/social/fun life only with hoeing, and social death with commitment, it sounds like you havent had the privilege of being socialized well.

dude....this is the coli there's no "gray area/middle ground" round these here parts

 

[winb83]

Which i what most of the "never wanna get married" crew is.
selfish...methodical..and exacting in going thru their whole lives using people up until they get their fill and moving on while feeling no emotion. and yes many of them are "Successful" and seemingly "well adjusted" on the outside. but they're not. that's not normal.
it's textbook soicopathy. i don't fault them for it because sociopathy is something you're born with (or develop due to some kind of acute trama in childhood) they honestly can't help it and there's no cure for it. read up about sociopaths ...sad shyt.

we all use people that's what life is about. if you're in a relationship you're both mutually using each other because it serves both your purposes. the day one person is using another and it doesn't the relationship ends.

the difference between people like us and people like you is we don't sit around and pretend the shyt we do serves some sort of higher purpose. human to human relationships where anything at all is exchanged is using a person simple and plain. your friend has a DVD you like and you ask to borrow it you used them to get that movie. now if they asked you to give them a movie in exchange yall both used each other in a mutually beneficial way.

if you do something for even a stranger as an act of kindness you use them to make yourself happy. when was the last time you took your pay check and gave it in its entirety to charity? when was the last time you got involved in a relationship or married a person you hated just because they were lonely and even though it made you feel miserable you stuck with it for their sake? most human beings aren't gonna sit around and do things that make them miserable for the sake of another person. most do things that serve a selfish purpose for others.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

we all use people that's what life is about. if you're in a relationship you're both mutually using each other because it serves both your purposes. the day one person is using another and it doesn't the relationship ends.

the difference between people like us and people like you is we don't sit around and pretend the shyt we do serves some sort of higher purpose. human to human relationships where anything at all is exchanged is using a person simple and plain. your friend has a DVD you like and you ask to borrow it you used them to get that movie. now if they asked you to give them a movie in exchange yall both used each other in a mutually beneficial way.

if you do something for even a stranger as an act of kindness you use them to make yourself happy. when was the last time you took your pay check and gave it in its entirety to charity? when was the last time you got involved in a relationship or married a person you hated just because they were lonely and even though it made you feel miserable you stuck with it for their sake? most human beings aren't gonna sit around and do things that make them miserable for the sake of another person. most do things that serve a selfish purpose for others.

^^^^^The definition of sociopathy^^^^

And its worse that you can't even see it

 

[Anothergirl]

^^^^^The definition of sociopathy^^^^

And its worse that you can't even see it

i think he see's it ....and at least he's honest with himself. i respect that more than the guys who try to deny their social deviancy by saying "new p*ssy for life > a family " .

 

[winb83]

^^^^^The definition of sociopathy^^^^

And its worse that you can't even see it

right or wrong there's an underlying selfish purpose in almost everything you do? i look for that purpose and you call me a sociopath because of it.

you give your mother a gift for her birthday and it makes her happy but deep down it makes you happy to make her happy. in turn you used your mother to make yourself happy and made her happy in the process. you emotionally caring about her or not doesn't change that fact.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

right or wrong there's an underlying selfish purpose in almost everything you do? i look for that purpose and you call me a sociopath because of it.

you give your mother a gift for her birthday and it makes her happy but deep down it makes you happy to make her happy. in turn you used your mother to make yourself happy and made her happy in the process. you emotionally caring about her or not doesn't change that fact.

and you keep going.

We get it your not good at social/emotional connections. It is what it is

 

[Gus Money]

Any man who knocks the next man's choices or projects their opinions/values on everyone else shouldn't be taken seriously...

Yup.

 

[winb83]

and you keep going.

We get it your not good at social/emotional connections. It is what it is

you can't even answer the question because you know i'm right. i get it you don't want to self-analyse past your "emotional connections" because it undermines your thought process and makes you more like me than you'd care to admit. you gave me the label of sociopath. i see myself as a person who values logic over emotion always. i'm always looking for the logic even past the emotion. that's why i can ask why a person did something and see their own selfish purposes behind a selfless act.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

you can't even answer the question because you know i'm right.

I actually think more/most people would be more happy buying something for themselves and spending their money on themselves rather than buying a gift for their parent or anyone else for that matter, but they do so anyway. So no, you're not right.

 

[winb83]

I actually think more/most people would be more happy buying something for themselves and spending their money on themselves rather than buying a gift for their parent or anyone else for that matter, but they do so anyway. So no, you're not right.

i assume you've never heard the saying its better to give than receive.

the fact of the matter is if you gave someone else something and it made you happy to do it there was a selfish motive for your selfless act. this is not my opinion it is fact. the selfish motive might not have been the only one but it was there. you are arguing how you think other people feel against a cold hard fact.

we marry people we like and love, a selfish act that serves your purpose and we divorce because the relationship no longer serves our purposes. we wrap it up in some bullshyt and call it irreconcilable differences or say that person doesn't love us anymore but the truth is we divorce because we don't want to be in the relationship anymore. what's the difference between that and a guy who terminates the dealing before marriage because the relationship no longer serves his purposes?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I actually think more/most people would be more happy buying something for themselves and spending their money on themselves rather than buying a gift for their parent or anyone else for that matter, but they do so anyway. So no, you're not right.

Exactly. I didnt think he was really looking for an answer to that crap. But plenty of people make SACRIFICES for other people and get/expect NOTHING in return.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

i assume you've never heard the saying its better to give than receive.

Comfortable, overused cliche.

You're frankly speaking in circles and jumping all over the place because you're wrong. Do people feel an obligation to do certain things? Yes. Are there other things people would rather do? Of course.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

i assume you've never heard the saying its better to give than receive.

the fact of the matter is if you gave someone else something and it made you happy to do it there was a selfish motive for your selfless act. this is not my opinion it is fact. the selfish motive might not have been the only one but it was there. you are arguing how you think other people feel against a cold hard fact.

we marry people we like and love, a selfish act that serves your purpose and we divorce because the relationship no longer serves our purposes. we wrap it up in some bullshyt and call it irreconcilable differences or say that person doesn't love us anymore but the truth is we divorce because we don't want to be in the relationship anymore. what's the difference between that and a guy who terminates the dealing before marriage because the relationship no longer serves his purposes?

You may not like the word but your only further proving you are a sociopath. You can't even fathom a person doing something purely for unselfish reasons. You can't even understand the ideas of love and companionship, or making connections with other human beings.

What do you say about the soldier that throws himself in front of a grenade to save his comrades, what is his selfish purpose?

 

[Rawtid]

we all use people that's what life is about. if you're in a relationship you're both mutually using each other because it serves both your purposes. the day one person is using another and it doesn't the relationship ends.

the difference between people like us and people like you is we don't sit around and pretend the shyt we do serves some sort of higher purpose. human to human relationships where anything at all is exchanged is using a person simple and plain. your friend has a DVD you like and you ask to borrow it you used them to get that movie. now if they asked you to give them a movie in exchange yall both used each other in a mutually beneficial way.

if you do something for even a stranger as an act of kindness you use them to make yourself happy. when was the last time you took your pay check and gave it in its entirety to charity? when was the last time you got involved in a relationship or married a person you hated just because they were lonely and even though it made you feel miserable you stuck with it for their sake? most human beings aren't gonna sit around and do things that make them miserable for the sake of another person. most do things that serve a selfish purpose for others.

The action of "using" someone is intentional and developing chemistry with a person is hardly ever intentional.

 

[Rockstar Mom]

Is there a whole bunch of old people arguing in this thread?

*points and laughs*

*exits*