LMAO!! How are you determining the value or purpose of something if you've never experienced it? That just doesn't make good sense.
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LMAO!! How are you determining the value or purpose of something if you've never experienced it? That just doesn't make good sense.
Naturally that solider was only thinking about the accolades he would receive in the event he didn't fukking die.
You're right, dude is a total sociopath.
i can totally see someone doing something for entirely selfless purposes. i just don't see the common man doing it because if i look hard enough i can typically find their selfish reason even if they hid it from themselves with self deception.
his selfish purposes was he didn't want them to die. he was more than willing to give up his life to save them because their living made him happy.
like i said if you could date and marry a woman you hated because it made her life better but made you miserable and served you no purpose at all to do so that is a truly selfless act. it can only truly become selfless when you stand to gain nothing from it but do it in the face of that.
<----- this face all day. 
Anothergirl
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a lot of great points being made in here but in the end it's pointless arguing with a socio y'all. they are hardwired differently ...what we're saying will never make any "sense" to them....just like what they're saying will never make sense to us.
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The thing is a lot of people think the way he does. You just have to poke around enough to find out.
Ie. dude earlier in the thread stating I only want kids as an insurance policy. Something tells me a person who thinks that way about kids feels no responsibility to his own family/parents. Like nah, it's wrong to think of your kids as an insurance policy but if your kids don't feel a responsibility to you when you need them, after you've raised them their whole life, after you pass down your estate and wealth to them, somethin' wrong with them
There are a lot of people who can't fathom the thought of good deeds or sacrificing something you may really want to do for someone else
what about a soldier that jumps in front of a grenade to save his personal enemy who also happens to be a fellow soldier? he hates this guys guts but knowing the grenade would kill the guy he saves him anyway. that is a selfless act.Naturally that solider was only thinking about the accolades he would receive in the event he didn't fukking die.
You're right, dude is a total sociopath.
when i put it like that its easy to see you ain't taking a bullet for just anybody. the person you'd die for typically is gonna serve some purpose to you to have them keep living.
your just talking in circles bruh.You have a very 2-D Outlook on why people get married. The notion that people do it soley for selfish reasons, real or subconsciously is off base. For many people love isn't only about how that person makes you feel from a gratification sense. In addition to that it can just as easily be about wanting the best for that person, wanting to see them happy and successful. For a lot people the method to do that is joining together in whatever union they choose.
Nintendough
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I know man's value increases as he gets older but I really couldn't imagine being alone or juggling women when I reach my 30's. I'm a breh that enjoys a woman's company.
you want the best for them because it makes you happy to have them get the best. still selfish.
we can turn marriage into a selfless act though. guy fukks a jump off knocks her up and as time goes on he grows to dislike her but marries her for the kids sake and stays married to her till the kid becomes an adult. stays faithful and honors the relationship and makes his wife happy but the whole time he's not.
that's a selfless marriage. he did it for his kid and he stuck to it. many people try to do just this but fail at it because deep down the majority of the population is inherently selfish.
when i contrast a person doing something they strongly dislike for the sake of another vs a person doing something they like for the sake of another its easy to see that most supposedly selfless acts are actually selfish or at least partially so.
Again very 2-D. Does a parent doing something for a child that makes the parent feel good a selfish act. The fallacy in your narrative is that there is something wrong with genesis of a relationship being the benefits it provide one side or the other. You are neglecting the possibility that out of that gratification comes a true commitment to serve the other person. That evolution is moving element and is part of the dynamic of a good relationship. What you are railing against at your core is the point in a relationship where that transition isn't made.
having a two parent one home family is better for the child but doesn't necessarily make the child feel better. that child could still have both parents in its life without them married and would never personally know the difference.
what i'm saying is its easy to serve the other person when that interest aligns with your own self interest or its convenient for you to do so. its easy to do that act and tell yourself you did it for the other's sake when it actually served your own purposes as well.
given a situation where the result is beneficial to one party and the other party gains nothing or even loses in the process that is the only way to remove the influence of selfish interest.
its much easier to take a bullet for your best friend than it is to take one for your mortal enemy who you may want to see dead but know they shouldn't be so.
for many people that selfish self interest is never tested. their convenient acts of goodwill go to those they have this emotional bond with and they can hid their selfish interest behind the bond but deep down those acts also serve a selfish purpose.
if i say you should date and marry someone you dislike and find unattractive but they like you and find you attractive your initial reaction is probably gonna be why would i do that? the selfless act of dating and marrying that person may bring them great joy but when it directly conflicts with your own selfish self interest and goes against that you'd probably be inclined to decline.
Your logic seems to endorse that people should not be with someone else where they take benefit from the relationship. It's kind of looney to suggest that a union should be completely selfless act by both parties. By applying those parameters you create an wall around successful union that can't be scaled.
no my logic is that most of the time for the majority pretty much everything people do serves their own self interest even as it benefits others.
i feel like people should admit this and not try to hide that behind emotion or the benefit others get from their acts. the primary reason i bought my mother a gift for her birthday may be to make her happy but deep down i got something from that as well. subconsciously that factored into my decision to get the gift.
would you buy a person you hate a birthday gift because it would make them happy and that would do nothing for you? their happiness might negatively effect you?