The fact that the speed of light is so central to reality disturbs me.
My point was that there are more than five senses, and you don't have to believe in the supernatural/ESP to prove it.
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so is it like gollum/smegle type thoughts
or like this
"bud light keeps it coming"
ok well animals brains actually work like that
hold your nose closed next time you actively think
Maybe I'm tripping and I do have internal monologue.ok well animals brains actually work like that
it was said by researchers that a squirrel in the forest would take snapshots of its surroundings to remember where its den was and where its hidden food were. So for some reason it would glimpse in three different directions and then make a decision
you say "i can look at a red book and decide its red"
when people put internal monologue with thinking it isnt because they are judging something based on its characteristics, they are having an internal conversation about the things around them.
so just judging something isnt exactly the same as thinking.
So do people with no internal monologues, judge only? unless they are speaking out loud?
No, I'm not about to do that". Like, that exact sentence popped out in my mind. But I don't feel like I have an internal voice that said the sentence. It's like the sentence popped out raw.
its an example of a habitual thoughtMaybe I'm tripping and I do have internal monologue.
For example, when I read your last sentence, I thought "
But I don't need internal sentences to have structured abstract thoughts.
I think it's just a different way of thinking, on a spectrum. Just like aphantasia is a different way of processing information. People with aphantasia will read novels and register information as a collection of facts. They can't "imagine" in the sense of internally "seeing" pictures. People without aphantasia can read words and see images pop up in their mind, and even among people that see images, their ability can differ greatly from person to person (some can vaguely see shyt and other can precisely look at details of complex pictures in their minds).
The internal monologue thing reminds me of aphantasia, but for sounds. A spectrum of how much people internally "verbalize" their thoughts.
Or maybe there are verbal thinkers (people who internally sound out every thought) and visual ones (people who internally see their thoughts).
Your turn tho: everytime when you're driving and see the light turn red, do you have a voice in your head that tells you "oh shyt, gotta stop now. Ok, now it's green, I can go"?
Having a voice in my head sounding out every thought sounds like a nightmare
habitual thoughts are ones we collect and store in tightly packed ways so that when we see it again we can process it faster
this is also the phenomena that makes you feel like the things of the past had more significance than the things in the present
its the brains natural way of taking a previous experience and reducing it to make room for "possible" new experiences
i forget where i read/watched on it but it was good. Because of the way we store memories as we age we are more likely to feed the "habitualizing" sequence than the "savoring" sequence of first experience
kinda like your first time going raw vs 10th anniversary sex
im trying to savor the flavor
even though the experience is still inconclusive for now
this is exactly how i think many timesYou might have read it from Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman. It's such a fascinating book even though the replication crisis in the field of psychology kinda soured my appreciation of it.
The way people don't need to think slow for habitual actions could be compared to how I feel about most thinking operations I guess. It misses the mark a little bit though, in my opinion. I think the idea of a spectrum (where thoughts are more or less spelled out) and visualization (images, even abstract ones, rather than sounds) fits more accurately my experience. I probably do a little bit of sounding out (even though it feels more like writing my thoughts than saying them internally) combined with a whole lot of visuals and fast thinking.
Recently I found myself trying to spell out my thoughts more and have this internal dialog when I play board games and I want to plan several steps ahead and I must admit that it helps
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