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Pifferry said:
He didn't deserve to get shot for publishing satire comics about Islam but if he was a racist :manny:

Yes because the people who just happened to be born in France are guilty of the actions of the French government in the past.
Guess Japan and China among other countries should be wiped off the map to.
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We call you a "cac" because you use their same deflections, you have the same fake outrage over non-existent racial double standards like they do, and you're just an overall jackass who contributes nothing to any discussions but lame sarcasm and blindly defending a group that has no remorse or a conscience.

And when we ask you why white people have such a long history of sociopathic barbaric behavior, you keep ducking from the answer.
 
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mrken12 said:
We call you a "cac" because you use their same deflections, you have the same fake outrage over non-existent racial double standards like they do, and you're just an overall jackass who contributes nothing to any discussions but lame sarcasm and blindly defending a group that has no remorse or a conscience.

And when we ask you why white people have such a long history of sociopathic barbaric behavior, you keep ducking from the answer.
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:umad: you're an idiot.
If we put your reasoning skills into a white person they would end up becoming a racist.
And I've never used a white supremacist deflection technique.
 
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the cac mamba said:
men flying into the sky on a horse is imaginary. such a man did not exist

now, some delusional fukk with a penchant for 9 year olds who went on islamic conquests to spread his religion and murder, yes sure that dude was real :ehh:
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U made a dumb ass comment moron..
U wanna insult Muslims find a Mosque near your crib and do it there
 
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the cac mamba said:
you're caping like one :scusthov:

why cape for people who think that you're an infidel and their god is gonna punish you forever? what a hoe ass position :mjlol:
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I am not "defending" Muslims or freedom of speech. I have enough common sense not to lump the actions of individuals to an entire group. You on the other hand well :heh:
 
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As we rightly condemn the senseless and barbaric murders of journalists in Paris can we still manage to have a rational conversation about free speech, without the empty platitudes about how these cartoonists were "heroes?" For instance, I believe it is possible to agree that free speech is an essential value, and that journalists should have the right to say what they want -- even to offend others -- without then proceeding to act as though every act of speech (just because people have a right to it) is therefore worth defending as to its substance, and that free speech protects one from being critiqued for the things one says. What I mean is this: I have a right, I suppose, to stand in the middle of Times Square and shout racial or religious slurs. And I surely should be able to do that without fear of being murdered for it. This last point in particular is so obvious as to be beyond debate, I would hope. But if I do this, whether in Times Square or in print, it makes me an a$$hole, and one who deserves to be labeled as such. Not a hero, but an a$$hole. And I don't become a hero just because I insulted people, some of whom might be even bigger a$$holes than me, and so dangerous and unstable that they decide to hurt me. People seem to confuse the principle of free speech with the idea that one's speech should be protected from pushback; and while violent pushback is always wrong---always---I am uncomfortable with the idea that we should make heroes out of people whose job appears to have been to insult people they considered inferior to themselves. Especially because, historically, satire has always been about barbs aimed at those who are MORE powerful than oneself (the elite, royalty, the dominant social, economic, political or religious group), rather than being aimed down the power structure at those with less power. To satirize people who are the targets of institutionalized violence (whether for religious or racial or cultural or linguistic or sexual or gendered reasons) is not brave. It's sort of shytty, in fact. Should it be protected legally? Sure. Should those who do it be killed or punished in any way? Of course not. But should we hold them up as exemplars of who we want to be, all the while ignoring how the exercise of their freedom, without any sense of responsibility to the common good, actually feeds acrimony and violence on all sides? I think not. I really think we need to be talking about this.
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-Tim Wise

Recent post by Wise. I think it sums up why we aren't saying "they had it coming" but why the cartoonist paid a heavy price for their freedom of speech in which they could have used to strengthen muslim-secular french relations.
 
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