Parity at it finest in the nfl

[mastermind]

nothing is wrong with the system.
there will be ups and downs with teams and divisions

but this is the fairest way to make it possible.
until all teams play the same schedule then this is as close to fair as you will get it.
because everyone in that division plays the same competition. and your record in your division reflects that.

no, the fairest way possible is to reward teams for having the best record. Not reward teams for winning an artificial title.

You can say its fair because each team plays each other in the division, but the problem is that division team takes a spot away from another who is more worthy. Thats what sucks.

breh u just mad that the Skins are ass. If they were in the playoff hunt with 8 wins u wouldnt even be posting this bullshyt

you in the wrong thread, dummy

 

[Maschine_Man]

They are certainly better, or at the very least more worthy of a chance to prove how good they are than a team that won fewer games.

how can you say certainly better?

its impossible to prove without everyone playing the same schedule.


anyway. i'm done with this topic

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

This argument shyt is dumb. The NFL has proven that on any given Sunday any team can lose. Do I believe that the league sometimes looks like it could be fixed, yes I do but for the most part any team can be beaten on any day so this bullshyt about strength of schedule, divisions being wack, whatever other shyt you'd like to point out is utter bullshyt. It's shyt like this that proves NFL>>>>>>>>>>>any other professional sport. Only other thing that even comes close is March Madness and that's because it gives us this same type of competitiveness and drama.

 

[FTBS]

you just don't get it bruh....


this is as FAIR as its gonna get. outside of adding more teams that probably don't deserve to beein the playoffs. this is the best you can do.


if a team can't even win their own division, then what makes you think they deserve to make the playoffs

If a team can't beat more NFL competition than all the teams "below" them then what makes you think they deserve to make the playoffs? Because the other teams in their grouping couldn't do it either?

 

[mastermind]

and no one has given a logical case that a division winner should automatically make the playoffs.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

They are certainly better, or at the very least more worthy of a chance to prove how good they are than a team that won fewer games.

I know a L is an L and a W is a W but there are plenty of BS wins that happen on no calls or wrong call from the ref, a 11-5 team who got one or two questionable wins isn't inherently more worthy than the 10-6 team that won their division. NFL has so many fukking variables that face value records, unless we're talking clear outliers which are rare, aren't the end all be all

 

[Maschine_Man]

no, the fairest way possible is to reward teams for having the best record. Not reward teams for winning an artificial title.

You can say its fair because each team plays each other in the division, but the problem is that division team takes a spot away from another who is more worthy. Thats what sucks.


you in the wrong thread, dummy

they also play same same NON division games.

the whole schedule outside of two games is pretty much the same for everyone in the same division.
so it makes it fair for everyone in the same division.


so beating everyone in your division while playing the same schedule proves you are worthy enough to make it.

its not taking anything away from anyone that hasn't earned their own spot.

they have the same chances that every other team has.
win your division and you are in. thats it. its easy. if you have more wins than anyone else in your division you are in.

FAILING to do that, then you just have to hope that you have won more games than the next NON division winner.


so basically you dudes are saying that teams should be rewarded for coming in second in their own division?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

and no one has given a logical case that a division winner should automatically make the playoffs.

the logical reason is that's the way the playoffs were built when they thought of how to construct the road to the super bowl, divisions play for the conference that plays for the championship. If we're going to question the way the NFL constructed this, then let's question the logic of field goals, extra points, touch downs being 7 pts, safeties, pass interference, and anything else that was implemented because that's what they wanted. Let's just change everything

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

how can you say certainly better?

its impossible to prove without everyone playing the same schedule.


anyway. i'm done with this topic

three posts later

they also play same same NON division games.

the whole schedule outside of two games is pretty much the same for everyone in the same division.
so it makes it fair for everyone in the same division.


so beating everyone in your division while playing the same schedule proves you are worthy enough to make it.

its not taking anything away from anyone that hasn't earned their own spot.

they have the same chances that every other team has.
win your division and you are in. thats it. its easy. if you have more wins than anyone else in your division you are in.

FAILING to do that, then you just have to hope that you have won more games than the next NON division winner.


so basically you dudes are saying that teams should be rewarded for coming in second in their own division?

 

[mastermind]

so basically you dudes are saying that teams should be rewarded for coming in second in their own division?

if that 2nd best team is better than the division winner, then yes.

Does anyone think the San Fran shouldnt be in the posteason over the Bears/Packers and Eagles/Cowboys?

How about New Orleans/Carolina over those prior 4 teams?

the logical reason is that's the way the playoffs were built when they thought of how to construct the road to the super bowl, divisions play for the conference that plays for the championship. If we're going to question the way the NFL constructed this, then let's question the logic of field goals, extra points, touch downs being 7 pts, safeties, pass interference, and anything else that was implemented because that's what they wanted. Let's just change everything

there is no slippery slope here as I am questioning how they determine who makes teh playoffs, not the way the game is played.

 

[FTBS]

how can you say certainly better?

its impossible to prove without everyone playing the same schedule.


anyway. i'm done with this topic

Because they were more successful against a comparable level of competition. Nobody is gonna play the same schedule, no matter how you set it up. However everyone is playing the same level of competition over the course of the season.

I know a L is an L and a W is a W but there are plenty of BS wins that happen on no calls or wrong call from the ref, a 11-5 team who got one or two questionable wins isn't inherently more worthy than the 10-6 team that won their division. NFL has so many fukking variables that face value records, unless we're talking clear outliers which are rare, aren't the end all be all

Plenty of variables go into winning a division as well. Winning a division doesn't inherently make you more worthy than a team that won more games overall just because that team happens to be in a division with a team that won even more games.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

if that 2nd best team is better than the division winner, then yes.

Does anyone think the San Fran shouldnt be in the posteason over the Bears/Packers and Eagles/Cowboys?

How about New Orleans/Carolina over those prior 4 teams?


there is no slippery slope here as I am questioning how they determine who makes teh playoffs, not the way the game is played.

It's one in the same, it's the structure and rules they set up. What logic you want beyond that I don't know.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Because they were more successful against a comparable level of competition. Nobody is gonna play the same schedule, no matter how you set it up. However everyone is playing the same level of competition over the course of the season.



Plenty of variables go into winning a division as well. Winning a division doesn't inherently make you more worthy than a team that won more games overall but happens to be in a division with a team that won even more games.

If winning the division doesn't necessarily make you more worthy and having the best record, especially by only like 1-2 games doesn't make you more worthy, then why not add controls such as, win your fukking division or have a good enough record for the wild card spot.

 

[mastermind]

It's one in the same, it's the structure and rules they set up. What logic you want beyond that I don't know.

its not one in the same, these are two separate conversations. We can have a debate on the way the game is played and rules, etc if you want too. But thats not what this convo is about.

The way the NFL used to be set up was to have two divisions, round robin against those teams, and then the winners goes to the championship game.

 

[the next guy]

Of course, why have the best teams compete, when you can have .500 teams in there for their one and done to make the bandwagons fans happy.