staticshock
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Prime PG in terms of tools and skillset is THEE ideal prototypical wing, you couldn't create somebody with that type of handle, shooting, defense, and athleticism in a laboratory

LeBron
T-Mac
Pippen
KD
Prime PG in terms of tools and skillset is THEE ideal prototypical wing, you couldn't create somebody with that type of handle, shooting, defense, and athleticism in a laboratory

I stand by my statement
LeBron
T-Mac
Pippen
KD

christPG clearly is not the same finisher he was after the injury and he really has no inbetween game
Not gon post stats or nuffin but for sure they back me on that, you def shoulda quoted me if u think otherwise doe
I read that comment and had the same gut reaction like "fukk is this nikka talmbout
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Prime PG in terms of tools and skillset is THEE ideal prototypical wing, you couldn't create somebody with that type of handle, shooting, defense, and athleticism in a laboratory
I really thought he was gonna take that next step and be a top 5 player![]()
So that Bucks team that made the ECF was he or Glenn Robinson their best player
And while Ray Allen was never a pitbull of a defender he was never seen as a weak one, I highly doubt he was even a net negative
Bro, I know you read what I posted. I know you did. Again, is prime Ray Allen a 2nd best player on a championship team caliber player?
hell yes
If anything look at that 2004 pistons team, ray is fat and away better than their entire starting 5
And I'm looking at that 2011 mavs roster and he's better than everybody but Dirk.
Some of those spurs teams he would have been the 2nd best player too
The mavs team had multiple all starsThose teams had multiple all stars though. The Pistons had 4 all stars, The Spurs had multiple hall of famers.
IF you replace Kobe with Ray Allen on the 3 peat Lakers do they win? Most likely not. If you place prime Ray allen on a team where he had to be the direct 1b/2 guy with no other all star caliber players after him, that team is not championship caliber.




at you blatantly moving the goalposts like this in favor of circumstances that fit your flawed argumentThe mavs team had multiple all stars
what championship team can you think of off the top of your head that didn't have multiple all stars
You asked if Ray could be second best, if you wanna fudge the rules now then who's to say the team he's second best on doesn't have a 3rd all star that isn't as good as him?
Also, you need to go look at some tape and stats of his prime because this Shuttlesworth slander is not a good look
Look, i was salty as shyt when he left the Cs to join the Heat too breh but you don't gotta cintinue to do this
alsoat you blatantly moving the goalposts like this in favor of circumstances that fit your flawed argument
I stand by my statement
He defends better than everybody on that last besides scottie and only KD and T Mac are better shooters.
I don't even know what your brought Bron into this for stanley![]()




Seemed like a good fit when they were like 20-1 or whatever in the regular season with both of them playing. They were a good fit when going up 3-1 and getting 12+ points leads in each of the succeeding games. PG is just not a big time playoff performer. When shyt gets hot, he folds. We've seen it happen with different teams and different coaches so this ain't just a kneejerk reaction to last year. Kawhi ain't what he (and plenty of others) thought he was either. Both them nikkas thought shyt was sweet. Now Doc most certainly has to wear that 3-1 collapse crown. However, you bring in 2 supposed superstars to carry shyt. The real issue is that neither PG or Kahwi is a facilitator or a leader. Neither has ever had those responsibilities and they (along with so many others) underestimated all that goes into both.
Based on him not being Jordan or even Kobe/Bron, which is the company he was being placed in. He's a 2 way beast that can drop 25-40. But he's not gonna run your offense and he's not gonna lead you.