People are mad at Andrew Sullivan for saying 70% of African-American kids don't have fathers

Jhoon

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As they should be because it's bullshyt:hhh:I know too many fathers personally fukk this dude
That dude likes fukking dudes so much he married a dude.

I’m not saying his opinion is trash because he’s gay. James Baldwin is a dope person to me. I’m saying since Andy is peddling nonsense it is fair game to peddle nonsense as well. Ultimately, you should not have conversations with people with trash ass opinions.
 

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You can argue that, but that stat is still there.

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The stat is about children born to unwed mothers. The stat is not about whether fathers are in their children lives. Apparently that is what people don't seem to comprehend. Half of all children born in the USA are born to unwed mothers. There are children born to married couples, but that does not mean that the child is that of the father. There are people citing stats that don't know what they are trying to say.

HuffPost is now a part of Oath
CDC: Black men better fathers than white men
Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All
Almost half of first babies in U.S. born to unwed mothers
 

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The bolded has always been tricky because I've heard females say they are single parents even when the father consistently provides.
I don’t think a lot of ppl recognize that single mother just means unmarried... doesn’t meat that the father is a deadbeat & out the picture. I remember somebody trying to shame Carmelo for being raised by a single mother not knowing his father died from an illness
 
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it's a inaccurate stat

70 percent of black kids are born out of wedlock.

55 percent of black kids live in a single mom household.

the other 45 percent live In 2 parent home or with a single dad


of the 55 percent some of them may see there dad over summer or periodically.


it's always been a dumb untrue stat.

Not to mention black men spend more time with their kids than any race
 

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Every time there is a shooting in my city people are saying we need more male guidance and fathers in our community
Every time someone brings up this 70% stat people claim all black men have relationships with their kids and the marriage/two parent household numbers don’t matter
Which one is it

Of course this could be a community to community issue so we can only speak on our own experiences
Based off the amount of black men in jail and the poverty stats in various black communities I feel like this is more serious an issue than ppl want to admit
 

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The bolded has always been tricky because I've heard females say they are single parents even when the father consistently provides.

Its also not an accurate stat because families can say they are single for financial reasons. A woman can live with her husband but claim single to get government benefits for her kids.

A mother can claim single on her taxes even of her husband stays home with her so that her kids can get more financial aid.

In order to survive a black people have always gamed the system. So stats are always no accurate.

As far as the 70% black kids born out of wedlock it isn't an accurate stat as well. Cause a child can be born out of wedlock but their parents stay together. A child can be born out of wedlock but their parents get married after they are born. A child can be born out of wedlock but the parent they live with gets married and the child is raised in a two parent household with a step parent.
 
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