check lil wayne's resume my nikka
overall singles, sales, features, success
yall niccas cant accept the truth
And doing it in an era where no one buys albums like that is more impressive then sales in 98' where everyone was doing numbers.
People Need To Stop Acting Like Lil Wayne Wasnt The Weakest Link Of The Hot Boys
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And doing it in an era where no one buys albums like that is more impressive then sales in 98' where everyone was doing numbers.
Plexxx
Return of the G
nikkas trying to say wayne was better than bg now?
bet yall aint start listening to wayne until carter 2-3
bet yall aint start listening to wayne until carter 2-3
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Well i said i liked BG better cause he spit realer shyt. I stand on that and i stand on wayne being more skilled. Wayne's flows were ill. I should of been more precise. He wasnt more lyricaly skilled. But the variationz in his delivery/flow/vocal performance just were so on point. BG had some good flows too but wayne was better at that. Mainly on features are collabos. I still like BG more.
I think if BG worked on his craft more,he woulda been the Southern Styles P..
I might catch flack for this,but I think BG coulda been way better...
If he woulda left those streets alone and educated himself,his flow+storytelling woulda really been something to listen to...Over some good beats
Turk and BG were too "regional"for their own goods...Wayne was put in an environment where he was able to surpass that
Chopper City/Its all on u BG>>>>
And Checkmate BG>>>
I might catch flack for this,but I think BG coulda been way better...
If he woulda left those streets alone and educated himself,his flow+storytelling woulda really been something to listen to...Over some good beats
Turk and BG were too "regional"for their own goods...Wayne was put in an environment where he was able to surpass that
Chopper City/Its all on u BG>>>>
And Checkmate BG>>>
Look at the singles though. That's what other rappers saw being commercially successful. That didn't help further lyrical development. At the end of the day - he wasn't helping to stop the decline.
He could get busy though. That song on Solja Rags, Money on the Couch I think it was called? His first verse on that wa the best I've heard from him. There want anything else nearly as good on that album though. I havent heard all his stuff though. Keep posting his best stuff, maybe I'll rank him a little higher.
I tried to find it not too long ago, but no luck. I'm guessing somebody on here could drop a link...
Family Man
Banned
I'll get that taken care of for you.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Wayne and Turk were on the same level lyrically. Both were behind Juve and BG... Ghost writers and being Baby's "son" is what helped catapult Wayne career
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
Modern day wayne hate now that he is the rap antichrist makes this a hilarious discussion all the way around...we get to see the divergent dynamics of popularity backlash and nostalgia worship all in one instance...
on one hand we have the other 3 hot boys being largely irrelevant to some degree for damn near a decade at this point, and thus getting their "back in the day
" nostalgic bonus points applied....to the point where we now get to hear a bunch of muhfukkas wax poetic about how Turk, who was far and away the "weakest link" in just about every regard, was "the streets favorite" or whatever the hell else made up stuff people are talking about 
...
On the other hand Wayne in the time since the group broke up has become one of the defining figures of rap of the past decade, a national pop star, has been a constant relevant current figure the whole time (thus not allowing nostalgia to kick in) and is now at the peak of the backlash part of his fame cycle...and invariably has had that cliched hate retroactively rewrite his entire history in the minds of many...so instead of the young member with seemingly the most potential that was having standout verses on the first Big Tymer album, and was the biggest seller out of the 4 by their 2nd round of solo albums (Lights Out outsold both G-Code and Checkmate)...he was now clearly the weakest link, whose ascension to iconic superstar status had nothing to do with the potential showed back then but instead a series of nefarious backdoor doings and unfortunate coincidences
If instead of becoming the Lil Wayne that took over the rap game, he fell off into relative obscurity when the rest of the hot boys did and spent the bulk of last decade putting out albums nobody bothered to check...we'd be seeing threads about how underrated Wayne was and how if you go back and listen to a singles like The Block is Hot or Get off the Corner he was really spitting back then and blah blah...basically the same appreciation in hindsight that pretty much everybody from that Cash Money ere is afforded these days, except Wayne somehow
on one hand we have the other 3 hot boys being largely irrelevant to some degree for damn near a decade at this point, and thus getting their "back in the day
" nostalgic bonus points applied....to the point where we now get to hear a bunch of muhfukkas wax poetic about how Turk, who was far and away the "weakest link" in just about every regard, was "the streets favorite" or whatever the hell else made up stuff people are talking about ...On the other hand Wayne in the time since the group broke up has become one of the defining figures of rap of the past decade, a national pop star, has been a constant relevant current figure the whole time (thus not allowing nostalgia to kick in) and is now at the peak of the backlash part of his fame cycle...and invariably has had that cliched hate retroactively rewrite his entire history in the minds of many...so instead of the young member with seemingly the most potential that was having standout verses on the first Big Tymer album, and was the biggest seller out of the 4 by their 2nd round of solo albums (Lights Out outsold both G-Code and Checkmate)...he was now clearly the weakest link, whose ascension to iconic superstar status had nothing to do with the potential showed back then but instead a series of nefarious backdoor doings and unfortunate coincidences
If instead of becoming the Lil Wayne that took over the rap game, he fell off into relative obscurity when the rest of the hot boys did and spent the bulk of last decade putting out albums nobody bothered to check...we'd be seeing threads about how underrated Wayne was and how if you go back and listen to a singles like The Block is Hot or Get off the Corner he was really spitting back then and blah blah...basically the same appreciation in hindsight that pretty much everybody from that Cash Money ere is afforded these days, except Wayne somehow
Family Man
Banned
This is a very poetic and eloquent Lil Wayne dikkrider.Modern day wayne hate now that he is the rap antichrist makes this a hilarious discussion all the way around...we get to see the divergent dynamics of popularity backlash and nostalgia worship all in one instance...
on one hand we have the other 3 hot boys being largely irrelevant to some degree for damn near a decade at this point, and thus getting their "back in the day :ahhh:" nostalgic bonus points applied....to the point where we now get to hear a bunch of muhfukkas wax poetic about how Turk, who was far and away the "weakest link" in just about every regard, was "the streets favorite" or whatever the hell else made up stuff people are talking about
On the other hand Wayne in the time since the group broke up has become one of the defining figures of rap of the past decade, a national pop star, has been a constant relevant current figure the whole time (thus not allowing nostalgia to kick in) and is now at the peak of the backlash part of his fame cycle...and invariably has had that cliched hate retroactively rewrite his entire history in the minds of many...so instead of the young member with seemingly the most potential that was having standout verses on the first Big Tymer album, and was the biggest seller out of the 4 by their 2nd round of solo albums (Lights Out outsold both G-Code and Checkmate)...he was now clearly the weakest link, whose ascension to iconic superstar status had nothing to do with the potential showed back then but instead a serious of nefarious backdoor doings and unfortunate coincidences
If instead of becoming the Lil Wayne that took over the rap game, he fell off into relative obscurity when the rest of the hot boys did and spent the bulk of last decade putting out albums nobody bothered to check...we'd be seeing threads about how underrated Wayne was and how if you go back and listen to a singles like The Block is Hot or Get off the Corner he was really spitting back then and blah blah...basically the same appreciation in hindsight that pretty much everybody from that Cash Money is afforded these days, expect Wayne somehow
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
This is the expected level of discourse when discussing anything Wayne related on the internet now a days...way to go pal, quality posting...thank you for your contribution and insight sir
SuburbanPimp
Giving game to lames since the 90s
Nah, I ALWAYS thought Turk was the weakest.....
But BG & Juve were way ahead of both of them during that Hot Boys era..
Blockburner was one the songs that made me pay attention to Wayne and I use to think, this little dude might be pretty dope in the future
You put that with the fact he wasn't even cussing back then....
I seriously doubt Wayne could make a song now without cussing.. Its his crutch
But BG & Juve were way ahead of both of them during that Hot Boys era..
Blockburner was one the songs that made me pay attention to Wayne and I use to think, this little dude might be pretty dope in the future
You put that with the fact he wasn't even cussing back then....
I seriously doubt Wayne could make a song now without cussing.. Its his crutch
lol.
yall wasting yall time with @mobbinfms on this matter.
I said star nikka
Turk wasn't a star, neither was BG, juvie and wayne were the "stars" of that group, and wayne actually looked his age. I mean on first look you knew they were all young but even wayne's voice was prepubescent. His moms didn't even sign off on him to curse in his records, that was the first time i even knew something like that could happen.
I didn't say they didn't care just that they weren't sticklers for bars like that, at least the fans that i knew.
i guess i just don't see how being pretty much the main draw in the group dynamic makes him the weakest link...
If this is just a lyrical debate then i guess you just gotta compare verses/lines, i dunno. I certainly don't think it was that much separation between them skill wise, and even then i still don't see how wayne would rank last in that respect.
BG wasn't a star now?
okay so basically, you lowered the bar for wayne because he was soft and more innocent. thanks for proving my point.
i didn't say that lyricism was THEE draw of the group. nor did i say that the comparison was based on lyricism. there much much more to this rap thing that.
no.
for starters, this whole myth that everybody moved units back in the day is
secondly, lets be real. one of the main reasons why records aren't selling like that anymore is because the stuff being marketed is terrible for the most part.
more importantly, wayne has been pushed 1,000 times harder than the rest of the hot boys, and in the midst of an era that's not only weak, but also inactive on top of that.
he can drop carter 5 today without having to worry about another major label release droppin for months. and when that next artist finally drops, the chances are that its gonna be a wack-rappin nicca anyway. meanwhile, juvenile was going head up with hall-of-famers that were in or around their primes. and im talking artists that were droppin on the same day, and then the week after that, and the week after that, and the week prior.to even try to compare is ridiculous. you'd know this as well if you simply looked at the big picture.
if we take the super-successful version of wayne, and place him back in that '98-00 timeframe, he would have the same level of success that he actually did have during that period as a solo artist. actually, he would probably have even less success than that, seeing how hes released tons of bullchit in recent years.
you lost me there.
BG should've worked on his craft for what tho? the nicca already dropped like 2 classic albums. what more is there to ask for? most rappers would kill just to have one. what classic albums does wayne have? hell, what classic albums does styles p have?
turk & BG were not regional at all. i don't know where youre getting that one from. these dudes sold out arenas all across the country....and the arenas were packed with niccas. that's the complete opposite of regional.
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Not really lowering the bar, just acknowledging what he brought to the group and wondering how it made him the weakest link.
You haven't' really made it clear what the comparison is about then, if it's not about who was drawing more attention to the group, or who was the better rapper between them, da fukk is all this about?
I'll agree with you on him getting more push than anybody else but then again i feel like he did have the most charisma out all of them, pushing him seems like the logical thing to do aside from him being baby's "son".