People Prefer Vaccination Advice From Random Internet Commenters (Rather Than, Say, Experts)

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Stop Delaying Your Babies' Vaccinations

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The country is in the midst of a massive measles outbreak, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirming 121 cases in 17 states as of Monday. The proliferation of a disease once believed to be eradicated is in no small part due to a number of parents who erroneously believe they do not need to vaccinate their children, an arrogant subset of individuals who put unvaccinated infants, the immunocompromised, and the greater population at risk of contracting perilous illnesses. And doctors say it's not just virulent anti-vaxxers who can get people sick; medical professionals say people who delay vaccinating their children are dangerous, too.

As reported in the Wall Street Journal, about 10 percent to 20 percent of American parents fail to vaccinate their children within the recommended timeframe, choosing instead to delay them until the child is ready to start school, if not later. Doctors recommend children under the age of 6 get vaccinated for 14 different diseases on a specific schedule, which you can peruse on the CDC's website; the mumps, measles and rubella (MMR) vaccine is recommended for children ages 12 to 15 months, with a booster between ages 4 and 6.

But some parents reportedly believe that too many vaccines at once will overload a young child's immune system, a belief unsupported by scientific studies and described as "ludicrous" by one pediatrician. "Some parents don’t understand the immune system," Orange County, Calif. doctor Eric Ball told the WSJ. "Basically they’re afraid that if you inject your child with three shots in one visit it’s more than the immune system can handle."

It is not, and doctors say these parents are contributing to the rising ranks of anti-vaxxers, even though they do eventually vaccinate their children. "Our data show that once you start missing opportunities to vaccinate there’s a likelihood that you’ll never catch up, even with the best of intentions,” Paul Cieslak, medical director of communicable diseases and immunization for the Oregon Health Authority, said. Studies have shown that parents who delay vaccinations increase their child's chances of contracting dangerous diseases like pertussis or whooping cough. And again, since the population relies on herd immunity for protection, even an unvaccinated 3-year-old is bad news.

The good news is, this recent outbreak is so serious it has some vaccine-delaying parents scared. Measles cases rose 18.6 percent last week, with numbers including six infants who contracted measles in an Illinois daycare facility and a 4 month old in Pasadena. "Now that there’s a real clear threat of disease, people are making a different choice," one Orange County physician told WSJ, noting that 120 doses of the MMR vaccine were administered in his office last week.

Last week, the NYC Department of Health told us there have been two confirmed cases of measles in 2015 thus far, though neither are outbreak-related. New Jersey has had one confirmed case, that of an infant who was too young to be vaccinated. Before the advent of the measles vaccine, 4 million people in the U.S. contracted it annually, 400 to 500 people died of the disease, and thousands were hospitalized for complications. Vaccinate your children, and do it on time.
 

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Yes, 57% effective. I'm supposed to pay money for a vaccine that's 57% effective this year. That may sometimes protect me from strains that aren't a good match.
The CDC says it's less effective this year anyway, I'm a need that permanent flu vaccine cooked up in order to have it again.

I have no idea what type of insurance you have to be paying 57 dollars for the flu shot. You might wanna focus on changing your health plan and learning about different insurers before you argue about influenza. Enrollment for the state health exchanges has been over for 4 months. You should keep an eye open for your states date of open enrollment.

Secondly the flu shot is optional. OPTIONAL. It's most important that children, parents, the elderly, healthcare professionals, and anyone with a weak immune system receives it.

But it's completely OPTIONAL. Vaccine strain is a forecast. YOU expect 100% effectiveness against every strain because of YOUR inability to understand the science. Don't fault us. If you understood the complexities of the influenza virus, you wouldn't make statements about a "permanent" flu vaccine.

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about and keep it moving. What are you trying to prove?
 
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Yes, 57% effective. I'm supposed to pay money for a vaccine that's 57% effective this year. That may sometimes protect me from strains that aren't a good match.
The CDC says it's less effective this year anyway, I'm a need that permanent flu vaccine cooked up in order to have it again.

Word....it's like telling someone it works but only by this much. Tell them GTFOH.
 

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There are no non-vaccinated autistic children.
Unvaccinated Children with Autism
We don't hear about these children very often, but there are certainly unvaccinated children with autism.

In Japan, a 2005 study, "No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study," researchers found that the incidence of autism "rose progressively" even after the MMR vaccine was withdrawn from the country over concerns about aseptic meningitis. In the study, at least 170 children were found to have developed autism even though they had not received the MMR vaccine.

Remember, MMR is the vaccine that Jenny McCarthy called the 'autism shot' on Oprah in 2007, the vaccine that Wakefield published a study about, only to have his study retracted and his medical license revoked because his "conduct was irresponsible and dishonest", and that Dr. Bob Sears advised parents to split up and delay in what many people describe as an anti-vaccine book.

But that's just one vaccine, there are also many examples of completely unvaccinated children who have developed autism.

Lara Lohne, although she was never vaccinated because her parents were anti-vaccine, had every intention of vaccinating her own child. She didn't though, because of financial issues. And although he had never received any vaccines, her son developed autism:

I must admit that it was through conversations with a coworker that I began to suspect something might be wrong with my youngest son. It concerned me so much that I started looking for information online. I read some of the stories and they sounded similar to what I was experiencing with my son – with the symptoms, the regression and the age at which it all started to become apparent.
In a more common scenario, a parent might have an autistic child and decide to not vaccine their next child.

Are these children protected?

These unvaccinated children are certainly not protected against vaccine-preventable diseases and they aren't at any less risk for developing autism.

A study that was published in the February 2014 issue of Autism, "Immunization uptake in younger siblings of children with autism spectrum disorder," found that "the rates of autism spectrum disorder diagnosis did not differ between immunized and nonimmunized younger sib groups."

And not surprisingly, there are many more stories like this.

For example, the Autism Science Foundation highlights this common scenario:

Tina Brown, mother of 2 boys with autism, decided not to vaccinate son Dylan because his brother Dalton had been inoculated and was subsequently diagnosed with autism. Sadly, even in the absence of vaccines Dylan demonstrated symptoms of autism at 4 months of age.
An author and contributor to what is considered one of the most anti-vaccine websites there is also has a totally unvaccinated child with autism. Did that make her think about changing her views on vaccines? Although you would certainly think it would, as it has for other parents, it seems like she simply went from blaming her child's vaccines to blaming those that she had gotten even before she was pregnant.

http://pediatrics.about.com/od/autism/fl/Unvaccinated-Children-with-Autism.htm
 

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I have no idea what type of insurance you have to be paying 57 dollars for the flu shot. You might wanna focus on changing your health plan and learning about different insurers before you argue about influenza. Enrollment for the state health exchanges has been over for 4 months. You should keep an eye open for your states date of open enrollment.

Secondly the flu shot is optional. OPTIONAL. It's most important that children, parents, the elderly, healthcare professionals, and anyone with a weak immune system receives it.

But it's completely OPTIONAL. Vaccine strain is a forecast. YOU expect 100% effectiveness against every strain because of YOUR inability to understand the science. Don't fault us. If you understood the complexities of the influenza virus, you wouldn't make statements about a "permanent" flu vaccine.

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about and keep it moving. What are you trying to prove?

Actually I do and knew that, I thought I heard stories about science working on a permanent flu vaccine, citing t cells and shyt. If not I'll take my l and keep it moving...
 

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Nice try at propaganda. Stick your child with the vaccines my friend, come back in a few months and let me know how the child is doing. Every autistic child had a parent who had them vaccinated. There are no non-vaccinated autistic children.
This is demonstrably false. Autism didn't just come out of nowhere a few decades ago. It's being more recognized now.
 

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Yes, 57% effective. I'm supposed to pay money for a vaccine that's 57% effective this year. That may sometimes protect me from strains that aren't a good match.
The CDC says it's less effective this year anyway, I'm a need that permanent flu vaccine cooked up in order to have it again.
hate that the flu vaccine has got lumped into this because it doesn't belong in the same discussion as MMR. i've never gotten the flu shot and don't plan on getting one until i'm a senior citizen.
 
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