People really underrate Puff Daddy's genius on the No Way Out album

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man get outta here. nobody says that about dre and kanye. they are hailed. i'm sure he had more of a hand in the arrangement of production then we realize as well. many producers aint do shyt without puff. sue he mght not being able to use the actual equipment..doesnt mean he wasnt integral.


that being said he might get props but not for no way out. no way out should be hailed as a quintessential hip hop album but it isnt
I'll take Harlem World over No Way Out any fukking day
 

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slightly off topic, but i always liked the original title of this album better.

Hell Up In Harlem by Puff Daddy & The Goodfellas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No Way Out...

that shyt was advertised as the lp's name for months, then all of a sudden it was changed.

and i'm sure i'm in the minority but the o.g. mixtape version of "It's All About Benjamins" was my shyt for so long, that when the final album version came out I couldn't rock with the beat change or biggie or kim being on there. hearing that raw version with just puff and the lox months earlier on doo wop's new testament mixtape ruined the final version for me...
Man, the OG version was just the same verses from Puff & the Lox and the exact same beat. Lil Kim's verse on the Remix was hard & Biggie spitting on the different beat was lovely. Man, the Remix was way better :mjlol:
 

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Man, the OG version was just the same verses from Puff & the Lox and the exact same beat. Lil Kim's verse on the Remix was hard & Biggie spitting on the different beat was lovely. Man, the Remix was way better :mjlol:

I'm not saying that the o.g. version is better, just that I prefer it since I listened to that shyt for months straight when it hit the streets. I'm not a fan of any female mc's, never have been so kim being on their was :scust: to me. as far as biggie, that beat switch the jackson 5 killed the vibe for me, the energy dropped and despite biggie ripping it I still preferred the original. and no edited out lines either. like I said i'm sure i'm in the minority on this and I'm not mad at anyone who disagrees with me...it's all preference. :manny:
 

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I'm not saying that the o.g. version is better, just that I prefer it since I listened to that shyt for months straight when it hit the streets. I'm not a fan of any female mc's, never have been so kim being on their was :scust: to me. as far as biggie, that beat switch the jackson 5 killed the vibe for me, the energy dropped and despite biggie ripping it I still preferred the original. and no edited out lines either. like I said i'm sure i'm in the minority on this and I'm not mad at anyone who disagrees with me...it's all preference. :manny:

Man, when I first heard the Remix and knew BIG was on it I was siced as hell. Then the beat switch when he came in I was like oh shyt! That was crazy to me :yeshrug:
 

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Puff Daddy one my favorites. There’s definitely such a thing as a Puffy Bad Boy sound. It defined the mid to late 90s.
 

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The samples on the singles I’ll Be Missing You, Can’t Nobody Hold Me and Been Around the World were tooooo lazy imo

And Puff can’t rap

But the three joints with Biggie are incredible
 

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That shyt right there is a masterpiece of an album

the beats
the samples
the rhymes
the beat switches
the adlibs
the R&B collabs
every rap feature verse was fire from the Big to Rob to LOX to Twista to Jay
the singles were all hits

legendary album. I'll never understand the hate that it gets
He didn't make any of the beats or write any lyrics, just had a bunch of talented ppl do everything for him, and u don't get hate?
 

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That shyt right there is a masterpiece of an album

the beats
the samples
the rhymes
the beat switches
the adlibs
the R&B collabs
every rap feature verse was fire from the Big to Rob to LOX to Twista to Jay
the singles were all hits

legendary album. I'll never understand the hate that it gets
Classic album
 
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