Pete Rock Has A Message For Waka Flocka & his generation ; UPDATE : WAKA Responds
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
IN WHAT WORLD!!???
he mostly produced beats for rappers who didn't even go gold.
pete rock was nobody's Jermaine dupri or sean combs.
waka debuted & peaked in 2010. hes not of this generation as an artist.
and hes certainly too old to be talking some of this stuff hes talking on this topic.
the definition of pandering to the crowd that is willing to take him seriously. aint nobody waka's age holding him in high-regard.
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OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
Pete Rock is corny. Sorry 
I don't care if it sounds disrespectful and I am certainly taking up for that attention whore Waka Flocka Flame.
Those 'legends' were doing E in the 90s. LL Cool J was a coke head. Flava Flav and Wu Tang were smoking SHERM. Guys in the South, LEGENDS, were drinking Lean. Muhfukkas certainly WERE taking drugs and not just smoking weed. That is a lie. A really shytty one all things considered.
I absolutely fukking hate this revisionist history with these old heads where everything they did was perfect and golden, what the younger generation is just trash. You know why Run DMC is in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame? Because they came out 30+ years ago. Give J Cole and Kendrick time to marinate, I am sure they will make it too.
I don't care if it sounds disrespectful and I am certainly taking up for that attention whore Waka Flocka Flame.Those 'legends' were doing E in the 90s. LL Cool J was a coke head. Flava Flav and Wu Tang were smoking SHERM. Guys in the South, LEGENDS, were drinking Lean. Muhfukkas certainly WERE taking drugs and not just smoking weed. That is a lie. A really shytty one all things considered.
I absolutely fukking hate this revisionist history with these old heads where everything they did was perfect and golden, what the younger generation is just trash. You know why Run DMC is in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame? Because they came out 30+ years ago. Give J Cole and Kendrick time to marinate, I am sure they will make it too.
there will be no blasphemous comments regarding PR.. he gave us Main Ingredient, amongst his catalog of classic hits..Pete Rock is corny. Sorry
Those 'legends' were doing E in the 90s. LL Cool J was a coke head. Flava Flav and Wu Tang were smoking SHERM. Guys in the South, LEGENDS, were drinking Lean. Muhfukkas certainly WERE taking drugs and not just smoking weed. That is a lie. A really shytty one all things considered.
I absolutely fukking hate this revisionist history with these old heads where everything they did was perfect and golden, what the younger generation is just trash. You know why Run DMC is in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame? Because they came out 30+ years ago. Give J Cole and Kendrick time to marinate, I am sure they will make it too.
with that said.. its kinda of revisionist history for any of us, to act like we knew LL was doing coke.. and, alot of rappers were doing drugs.. were they doing it- yes.. of, course.. were they PROMOTING it.. hell, no..
PR's comment was way off, but i can understand what he was trying to get at.. and, if you look at alot of todays artists that kids gravitate toward.. its cool being a J..
and, the reason why cats like Kendrick, Cole, etc(talented artist, who contribute to the culture) may get into the RRHOF.. is because of their elders that paved the way.. at the same time, you dont hear them cats speaking down on their elders in hip-hop.. so, throwing them in there when speaking on clowns like Waka, 21 Simpage, etc is pretty much irrelevant..
I think you misunderstood my comment, I wasn’t speaking on any of that.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
Pete Rock is corny. Sorry
Those 'legends' were doing E in the 90s. LL Cool J was a coke head. Flava Flav and Wu Tang were smoking SHERM. Guys in the South, LEGENDS, were drinking Lean. Muhfukkas certainly WERE taking drugs and not just smoking weed. That is a lie. A really shytty one all things considered.
I absolutely fukking hate this revisionist history with these old heads where everything they did was perfect and golden, what the younger generation is just trash. You know why Run DMC is in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame? Because they came out 30+ years ago. Give J Cole and Kendrick time to marinate, I am sure they will make it too.
give Kendrick & cole time to marinate what? they havnt done chit. they wouldn't even stand out in this weak era if it wasn't for the powers-that-be forcing them in as some "kings". if they make it to a HOF, its gonna be as the default chosen ones of their time. and it'll be drake instead of cole.
none of those older rappers were promoting drug use tho. we're not even supposed to know that those guys were users.
only ones promoting it were some of the southern rappers, who are really regional legends if we're gonna keep it 100. cant recall any of the national legends from down there doing it. only one that comes to mind is BG but he did it when he was still underground/regional.
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Drip Bayless
Superstar
But your CULTURAL PIONEER HERO Bambatta did
The point is at the end of the day all that cultural shyt don't mean nothing in a INDUSTRY controlled by people other than yourself
And Being a so called street Nikka at 33 is NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF...
It shows u like a majority of your peers haven't grown up
WHO RAISED YOU?
I'm a homeowner and Business man who see things for what they ARE not what they SEEM to be...
Hip hop elitists such as yourself are like CATHOLICS and Bambatta is your Pedophile Pope...
Funny how u more ANGRY at Waka Flocka skill set as opposed to a HYPOCRITICAL CHILD MOLESTING HIP HOP ICON like BAMBATTA
AND U WONDER WHY THE KIDS ARE DISRESPECTFUL TO LEGENDS??
GahdamnWell damn playboy.
I'm impressed you sure is good at MULTITASKING
do you do hair as well and dance on the weekends??
YOU LIL B1TCH
I'm good dawg thanks for the laughs tho
Nothing productive comes out of messageboard...beefing with a 33 year old GANBANGER
Flamed his ass up
GetInTheTruck
Member
Waka response mad weak. Sound like a coli poster.
GetInTheTruck
Member
That's kinda the point. How you been in the game 10 years and got no classics unless you a garbage mc? Dudes like Kiss been universally lauded as top tier MC's just off of FEATURES....that's the difference between an MC and an entertainer.
I don't know why the younger generation gets so upset when the older heads call 95% of this new shyt trash. Nobody telling these new rappers not to get money. Whatever. But the shyt is trash for the most part.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
2010 would still be considered this era especially since it’s the beginning of the decade. Saying he isn’t is like saying nelly isn’t from the 2000s era because he came and peaked real early in the decade
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
They didn't hide the drug use from people, it just wasn't that known because they weren't covered 247. Rap wasn't even the most popular genre through stretches and people didn't have social media. Not to mention that you were a child when some of that music came out. It is much different when you are an adult and listen to music to pick up on innuendo. Did Method Man come out and say 'PCP is dope to smoke with some weed' but his god damn album was called TICAL
Chopped and Screwed music, that whole movement, it wasn't a secret they were drinking lean Kendrick and J Cole are still youngins in this game. They need time to marinate, to develop, to age just like everyone else has got. There are instances of people who did well in this game who didn't come catch fire until WAYYY after the fact. Yeah and people said Jay-z didn't do 'chit' between running with Jaz-O and his first album. Then his first album was cool but most of the country didn't care. He went from a regional guy to someone people consider one of the greatest of all time.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
naw. theres supposed to be 3 eras to a decade holmes.
early, mid & late.
I understand why that type of talk is dead now - for music at least, because most music nowadays is force-fed and not organic. they've just been forcing the same artists on us for the past 12 years for the most part - leaving the scene stagnant.
yes, nelly is a 2000s rapper. but when you focus on the '00s, hes synonymous with the early 2000s. yes, he had hits all thru the decade, even made history in the mid-00s. but his legacy lies in the early '00s.
They didn't hide the drug use from people, it just wasn't that known because they weren't covered 247. Rap wasn't even the most popular genre through stretches and people didn't have social media. Not to mention that you were a child when some of that music came out. It is much different when you are an adult and listen to music to pick up on innuendo. Did Method Man come out and say 'PCP is dope to smoke with some weed' but his god damn album was called TICAL
Kendrick and J Cole are still youngins in this game. They need time to marinate, to develop, to age just like everyone else has got. There are instances of people who did well in this game who didn't come catch fire until WAYYY after the fact. Yeah and people said Jay-z didn't do 'chit' between running with Jaz-O and his first album. Then his first album was cool but most of the country didn't care. He went from a regional guy to someone people consider one of the greatest of all time.
wow. how far have we digressed as a hip-hop community? how far has the bar been lowered to the point where we classify 30 year olds as young rappers?
Kendrick & cole are old as f*ck. them dudes are like my age. they've been in the game for 10 years. lol. if they didn't marinate into something hall of fame worthy yet, then its never gonna happen breh. you comparing them to run dmc, who solidified their legacies right out the gate on their first album, at 17-19. Kendrick & cole are like 30 with 5 albums & 5 mixtapes a piece and aren't even amongst the top rappers in their weak era when it comes to buzz in the urban community. theyre nobodies with big money behind them, in the grand scheme of things.
of course jay-z didn't do anything hall of fame worthy before his 1st album. HE DIDNT HAVE AN ALBUM OUT. and his 1st album was an independent street record. of course he wasn't going diamond off of it.
of course jay-z didn't do anything hall of fame worthy before his 1st album. HE DIDNT HAVE AN ALBUM OUT. and his 1st album was an independent street record. of course he wasn't going diamond off of it.
I knew about the drugs at a very young age. I didn't learn about drugs thru rap. LOL.
I knew about lean, way before texas rappers made it a thing. it started in philly. I remember when people used to refer to it as LIQ. but you didn't see rappers up here, parading it around like it was a sprite(no pun) commercial.
I also knew about rappers having substance abuse issues. i didnt need social media.
I'm saying that they didn't put it out there like that on wax
only good point you made here was the method man TICAL thing. and even still, it was just innuendo. not even popular innuendo before meth blew up, as far as I know at least. but yea, good point tho. I'll still give you that one.
I know about the chopped-n-screwed movement. there were no legends that came out of it homie. you forgot about the legends part.
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