Pete Rock Likes Twitter User-‘Only Nas would make 5 LP w/ The Least Inspired Producer of All Time" Tweet

[JustCKing]

Some of ya'll can't really be Nas fans and not underatand why Nas had several producers on each album up until Nasir and the Hit Boy run. Nas has always done all kinds of different sounds and while the Illmatic lineup of producers might've been cut from the same cloth, they all brought something different to the table.

With Hit Boy, Nas doesn't have to go through a list of producers when he can just pull up to the studio and have Hit produce whatever he feels loke rhyming over. It was the same deal with Salaam.

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

He's got a bunch of full albums with all dope beats he's put out recently. Just because you aren't checking for it doesn't mean he doesn't have heat.
Why do you guys make up shyt when you don't actually know? Super weird behavior constantly happening on this board.











And on and on and on and on. Pete Rock never fell off.

I’m going to listen. Thx

 

[Ziggiy]

What was the last Pete Rock produced banger? Please post it?

Dude hasn’t had heat in a minute.

This was the last beat of his that I thought was absolutely pristine


Funny thing is Pete said he created this beat in the same sessions he made The World Is Yours beat so this is a 30 year old beat

 

[Figaro]

Pete Rock definitely coming off a bitter & jealous in all honesty but if we keeping it real…Queensbridge Politics is easily a top 5 song Nas released in the last 10 years.

 

[Ziggiy]

Fair enough, but it was at least the majority.

And my overall point was that someone who organically matches with the artist would produce a better album. So Pharrell naturally meshes with pusha, but he wouldn’t be the match for Nas. Preemo or Pete rock or alchemist would be…and someone like j dilla or Madlib are universal. Hit boy has done well bc he’s the last person I’d expect to do Nas collbas , but some of the pitfalls you’d expect absolutely show up.

Premo, Pete Rock, and Alchemist do NOT organically match up with Nas any longer. Thats what this “Boom Bap Only”’contingent needs to understand. Nas has outgrown that box as an artist, if be hadn’t then he’d STILL be working with them. NO artist is going to listen to some beats by legendary producers, click with it, want to write to it, and just PASS on it. If Nas felt like he organically matched with Pete Rock it wouldn’t have taken 25 years for them to work together again, especially with Pete Rock crying and bytching about it. If Nas felt he organically matched with Alchemist it wouldn’t have taken 17 years for them to work together again. Nas and Dilla have ONE song together, The Season. Nas and Madlib have ZERO official songs together. Its impossible to say they would match with Nas organically

The only real question mark is Premo, as Nas has said THAT album still might happen. And even with THAT there’s a reason why Nas said he’s been wanting to work specifically with Hit Boy and as SOON as he went independent and could make his own decisions freely he sought out who? Not any insert 90’s boom bap producer, he sought out HIT BOY. Whom he ORGANICALLY meshed with and has been able to put out 5 albums with. It just needs to be accepted that this isn’t 1994 or 2002 and that Pete Rock, Alchemist, and Large Pro just simply are NOT those guys for Nas anymore. And honestly its not like he hasn’t been saying that directly (but respectfully) FOR the last twenty years in his own lyrics and the moves he makes. It really is absurd to listen to a man laugh as he proclaims that a song featuring an old school sounding break beat and Large Professor’s voice is SOLELY for “Trapped In The 90’s” nikkas and expect he’s ever again going to make a full album of the same sound. Its absurd to hear the man rap “The Nas enthusiasts think they know what's best for me/More than I know whats best for me” and think to yourself that he has any desire whatsoever to be put into a box sonically. Hell its absurd to listen to “They’d thought i’d make another Illmatic/but its always forward i’m movin/NEVER backward” and expect he cares whatsoever about capturing the same sound he mastered when he was 17.

These are crazy expectations when the man himself has been telling us over and over that these are NOT organic decisions certain fans expect him to make.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Premo, Pete Rock, and Alchemist do NOT organically match up with Nas any longer.

Is there anyone you think "organically matches" with Nas other than Hitboy? Will Nas be able to "organically match" with any producer other than Hitboy ever again, or does he lack the ability now? What are you trying to imply? Nas can only work with Hitboy, and that's it? Because that sounds dumb as hell.

Nas and Dilla have ONE song together, The Season. Nas and Madlib have ZERO official songs together. Its impossible to say they would match with Nas organically

Can you say it's possible now, or no?

And honestly its not like he hasn’t been saying that directly (but respectfully) FOR the last twenty years in his own lyrics and the moves he makes.

His own moves... like working with Alchemist, DJ Premier and Pete Rock very recently? By making a full album of the same sound with Hitboy, which is considered by a lot of people to be their best collab? Those moves tell you he is not and will never be open to the idea of making the kind of music he is already making?

These are crazy expectations when the man himself has been telling us over and over that these are NOT organic decisions certain fans expect him to make.

You do this thing where you pretend that any issues people have with Hitboy's production automatically means they want to hear him remake Illmatic. You also like to slide Alchemist's name in there with DJ Premier, Large Pro and Pete Rock like he's not extremely versatile and making completely different music than the "trapped in the 90s" shyt you keep claiming. Just say you aren't familiar with his work and keep it moving.

You take the stanning way too far. What are you going to do if Nas does start working with Alchemist again? You going to let everyone know how wack you think Alc is, and how disappointed you are in Nas for working with him? Act like you never made claims that Nas could only work with Hitboy? Pretend like you've always been an Alchemist fan? Complain that anyone who liked when he worked with Hitboy is stuck in the 90s?
You're painting yourself into a Hitboy shaped corner with all the dikkeating you're doing, and I better see you keep that same energy when Nas starts making music with other producers.

 

[Braman]

this shyt fukking sucks …hollow ass rhythm section deficient sterile garbage …where do you even listen to beats like this at? you’re not playing this with anyone else around you …this is isolation music ..sounds like some shyt that plays in the back ground at pete’s coffee …like those shallow ass beats you hear on a bop it machine because the speakers don’t have an amplifier built into them you dusty ass nikkas really lust for this shyt? …why?

Oh gosh no. Yea pack it up this sums up the whole convo right here. You a new ngga.

You talking out both sides of your neck, fym ‘dusty ass nkkas’, Nas is 50 years old he himself is a ‘dusty ass nkka’. This our shyt. Your critique is something a NBA Youngboy, 21 savage, lil baby fan would say about Nas in general, not just his beats So go over there scrap. But you damn sure can’t be a fan of Nas who’s made a career of introverted introspective sad contemplative “isolation music”.

Hundreds of YouTube comments: this song is beautiful it made me cry.
Young boy babble: ‘why is he bringing up his son I wanna hear him talk that shyt where are the synths this is isolation music ‘

 

[Budda]

These Pete rock beats posted in this thread are sleep inducing.

 

[Budda]

He's got a bunch of full albums with all dope beats he's put out recently. Just because you aren't checking for it doesn't mean he doesn't have heat.
Why do you guys make up shyt when you don't actually know? Super weird behavior constantly happening on this board.











And on and on and on and on. Pete Rock never fell off.

Most these beats are just ite, nothing better than what Hitboy has been producing for Nas at all, if Nas listened to fans like y’all he would be Smoke Dza level, he don’t need to work with no Pete Rock, what GOAT rapper or current rapper has worked with him in the last 10 years ?

 

[Budda]

Brehs can’t be serious with these new Pete Rock beats

 

[Ziggiy]

Is there anyone you think "organically matches" with Nas other than Hitboy? Will Nas be able to "organically match" with any producer other than Hitboy ever again, or does he lack the ability now? What are you trying to imply? Nas can only work with Hitboy, and that's it? Because that sounds dumb as hell.



Can you say it's possible now, or no?

His own moves... like working with Alchemist, DJ Premier and Pete Rock very recently? By making a full album of the same sound with Hitboy, which is considered by a lot of people to be their best collab? Those moves tell you he is not and will never be open to the idea of making the kind of music he is already making?


You do this thing where you pretend that any issues people have with Hitboy's production automatically means they want to hear him remake Illmatic. You also like to slide Alchemist's name in there with DJ Premier, Large Pro and Pete Rock like he's not extremely versatile and making completely different music than the "trapped in the 90s" shyt you keep claiming. Just say you aren't familiar with his work and keep it moving.

You take the stanning way too far. What are you going to do if Nas does start working with Alchemist again? You going to let everyone know how wack you think Alc is, and how disappointed you are in Nas for working with him? Act like you never made claims that Nas could only work with Hitboy? Pretend like you've always been an Alchemist fan? Complain that anyone who liked when he worked with Hitboy is stuck in the 90s?
You're painting yourself into a Hitboy shaped corner with all the dikkeating you're doing, and I better see you keep that same energy when Nas starts making music with other producers.

1). Nas organically matches with any producer who inspires him. From 01-04 that producer was Salaam Remi. In 06 that Producer was Will I Am. In 2010 that Producer was Damien Marley. In 2012 it was the combination of Salaam Remi/No I.D. In the current era its Hit Boy

Whose names are missing from this list? I’ll let you use common sense to figure it out. Think REAL hard and you’ll get it champ.

2). Very recently is four years ago, on a Lost Tapes compilation, NOT a full on Nas album. These are songs that did NOT make actual Nas albums and some are upwards of 13 years old. The Pete Rock song The Art Of It was recorded for the OG Lost Tapes 2 in 2011 and QueensBridge Politics is an ode to Prodigy so we know that song had to have been recorded within the last two years of Lost Tapes 2 release so lets say 2018. Two years later Nas began what would become a run of 65 songs with Hit Boy, NOT Pete Rock, which if he was so “organically”’ meshing with he could’ve continued working with outside of ONE song recorded specifically for a COMPILATION of older records.


3). I’m including Alchemist name because he’s become the new Coli poster boy for producers who could seemingly do a better job producing for Nas and frankly its an absurd notion when there is NO PROOF of this. I’ve already outlined Nas work with Hit Boy versus Alchemist work with the MC’s he does full projects with and by ALL metrics one can use (Sales/Acclaim/Accolades) Nas/Hit Boy are above Alchemist/whatever pairing. So that ONLY comes down to opinion and there are plenty of fans who obviously enjoy the Nas/Hit Boy pairing so opinion versus opinion means nothing as, again, there is no overwhelming supplementary evidence to support that Alchemist can make a superior project with Nas, even if you want to reference TWENTY YEAR OLD songs and say they were better, well that just makes you a “stuck in the 2000s” nikka instead of a 90’s one.

4). What am I going to do if Nas works with Alchemist again? He hopped on an alchemist beat last year on Cormega’s album. I NEVER said Alchemist was wack, not ONCE. I said he’s overrated on the Coli and that there’s no evidence that says he can make a better FULL ALBUM with Nas than Hit Boy. And posters who want to push the notion that Alchemist is this extinction level, Oppenheimer bomb of a producer that magically makes all projects he touches turn to gold is absolute horseshyt and either trolling or just praising a white man because he makes good rap beats. Bu bu but…ALCHEMIST WORKS WITH MAINSTREAM RAPPERS LIKE KENDRICK AND UNDERGROUND RAPPERS LIKE GRISELDA! HE’S VERSATILE!!! Well so is Hit Boy. Bu bu but…ALCHEMIST GAVE BENNY HIS FIRST GOLD SINGLE!!! Excluding the reality that J.COLE gave Benny his first gold single, Hit Boy helped get Nas his first Grammy, the SAME Grammy Alchemist said he truly wanted. So again if you like Alchemist great. You think his discography is the sun, moon, and stars? Great. You think he’d make a better album with Nas than Hit Boy has? Your opinion. But trying to pass your opinion off as a FACT because you still think My Book Of Rhymes is better than all 65 songs we’ve gotten from Nas and Hit Boy is insanity.

And I have kept the same energy when Nas worked with other producers. I said Nas Morales was FIRE because it is. I liked Runaway with Swizz though I felt the production was a too little “busy”. I absolutely LOVED Keep It Movin with Joey Badass and Statik Selectah.

See for ME its about enjoying what Nas puts out in the here and now. Not bytching about who he doesn’t work with or trying to pigeon hole him utilizing bullshyt rhetoric of whats “organic” when these entities haven’t appeared on official Nas albums in over TWENTY YEARS. Posters like you sound like Peter Rosenberg, trying to force a sound on an artist that they not rocking with anymore and then want to cry and post talk about how bumping One On One from the Street Fighter soundtrack 30 years ago makes you a real fan when really it just makes you look all the more pathetic

 

[African Peasant]

Nas will be more remembered for the work he did with Pete Rock than the work he did with Hit-Boy

 

[JustCKing]

Nas will be more remembered for the work he did with Pete Rock than the work he did with Hit-Boy

History will make that decision not us.

 

[African Peasant]

History will make that decision not us.

The writing is already on the wall

 

[Budda]

Nas will be more remembered for the work he did with Pete Rock than the work he did with Hit-Boy

Not really.