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The Billups for AI trade was a complete fukk up. AI didn't really do anything there, left them with a ton of cap space, & they signed Gordan & Villwhateverthefukk :scusthov:

nope, AI and the team was balling until Rip Hamilton went into bytch mode and messed up the chemistry
 

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Darko
Rodney White
Mateen Cleeves
Billups for A.I.
the next Dwayne Wade, Rodney Stuckey

Dumars isn't the only GM to miss on draft picks, plus Darko wasn't all on him, it was time for Billups to go regardless
 

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I'm not trying to shyt on Dumars cause he had a helluva run but come on bruh. Miss with that he couldn't do nothin for 3 years. Charlie v was a and is a bum and they had no where to play Gordon. You dont commit those dollars on a just becuase. Shoulda drafted Ty Lawson or jrue holiday instead of bum ass Austin daye.

Dumars wanted darko, William Davidson was never the meddling type of owner that made Dumars pick players. Miss me with that shyt.

Dumars was definitely on a leash while they were looking for a buyer. He had a deal/trade for Al Jefferson all set to go which was vetoed by ownership. He had no choice in regards to Gordon and V, the money had to be spent then, he couldn't hold on to it. Davidson is the reason Grant Hill wanted to bounce out of Detroit...Holiday or Lawson is not making this team any better...Knight >>> than those two anyway
 

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At the end of the day Dumars has won a championship in the one major sport with no parity. I give him somewhat of leash. The Rip, CB, Tay, Sheed team ran its coarse, dumars had to clean house. Dumars was not going to get big time FA to come to Det, he took gamble on Gordon and Charlie V but it didnt work out. But the team is in great shape. have two quality bigs, lottery pick, and a lot of cap space. And Lets not act like darko wasnt the consensus #2 prospect in that draft. If Det didnt pick him Den, Tor, Mia some other team would have.
 

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Darko
Rodney White
Mateen Cleeves
Billups for A.I.
the next Dwayne Wade, Rodney Stuckey
Monroe
Drummond
Knight

hell the only bad move you listed on there was Mateen Cleeves and maybe White.

Darko was gonna go that high. i personally wouldn't have picked him (would have took Melo) but that wasn't a bad move just one that didn't pan out. in fact if they draft Melo who's to say they can pull the deal for Wallace and win the championship that year? same with Stuckey who isn't even that bad he just ain't carrying a team.

Billups? it was time to destroy that team. it ran its course. the problem isn't that Billups was traded for A.I. it was that Billups was turned into Ben and Charlie but considering no free agent in their right mind that's worth a shyt is gonna come to Detroit what are you gonna do?

Dumars built a championship team off other people's trash. you wanna fault Dumars for Billups when Dumars was the one that got him and paired him with Larry Brown to make him a better player?

Its very hard to built a good team from table scraps and written off garbage. you think some other guy is gonna walk in and turn it round? you're wrong. when you're making moves and obtaining dodgy pieces you're likely gonna have a long string of failures.
 

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I'm not trying to shyt on Dumars cause he had a helluva run but come on bruh. Miss with that he couldn't do nothin for 3 years. Charlie v was a and is a bum and they had no where to play Gordon. You dont commit those dollars on a just becuase. Shoulda drafted Ty Lawson or jrue holiday instead of bum ass Austin daye.

Dumars wanted darko, William Davidson was never the meddling type of owner that made Dumars pick players. Miss me with that shyt.

Ok, you wanna believe all that fine, but since 2009, what has Dumars done wrong? Hiring Lawrence Frank? He signed signed Stuckey to a below market contract, draft Drummond and Knight and Monroe and Singler. What has he done wrong since 2009?
 

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:heh: at drafting Tayshaun being the highlight of this clown's career




:aicmon::aicmon::aicmon::aicmon::aicmon:


if only this post was as dope as your avi :ohlawd:




but :whoa: what about a championship and back to back trips to the trophy game, and being the kings and gatekeepers of the east for years? what other current gm's have that resume currently
 

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dont matter

how the fukk you miss out on Bosh, Wade, Melo?

not even miss out....just not draft the nikkas

then free agency come around we got cap room

and you sign Charlie V and Ben Gordon lol

get eem outta here nikka fukked up too mny times

this nikka Dumars found 3 diff ways to fukk up

by trade,draft, and free agency

I agree with everything except the Darko part. It wasn't like he just reached for the nikka, everybody was on his dikk at the time. He woulda went number two no matter who was drafting that year. He was supposed to be the next Dirk, remember? It was a fukk up no doubt but it was more of a retrospect fukk up then a clear fukk up at the time. If only them nikkas could got that 3rd pick. :why:

Now the Daye over Jrue and Lawson shyt it pretty indefensible. Not to mention not trading Sheed :manny: no fukks given ass, when you coulda got Lopez and Okafor.
 

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I agree with everything except the Darko part. It wasn't like he just reached for the nikka, everybody was on his dikk at the time. He woulda went number two no matter who was drafting that year. He was supposed to be the next Dirk, remember? It was a fukk up no doubt but it was more of a retrospect fukk up then a clear fukk up at the time. If only them nikkas could got that 3rd pick. :why:

Now the Daye over Jrue and Lawson shyt it pretty indefensible. Not to mention not trading Sheed :manny: no fukks given ass, when you coulda got Lopez and Okafor.

we was playin wit house money wit that pick
nikka drafted Darko to sit on the bench smh
witta team that we knew had a time limit
all dem nikkas was old

how we drop the ball with Melo,Wade,Bosh? even Kaman?
they was projected as franchise players
darko was a project
we was a playoff team wit all old pplayers
he wasnt think future so he dropped the ball imo

he can get a halfway pass on that everything else
he gotta go for that im sorry
 

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Ok, you wanna believe all that fine, but since 2009, what has Dumars done wrong? Hiring Lawrence Frank? He signed signed Stuckey to a below market contract, draft Drummond and Knight and Monroe and Singler. What has he done wrong since 2009?

:dwillhuh: Who the fukk is Rodney Stuckey? Seriously what has this nikka brought to the table? What has he really done to warrant more than $8 mil a year?

The nikka got lucky in the draft point blank. I can't give a nikka credit for having a consensus top 5 pick fall into his lap for 3 straight years.

And yeah what the fukk is a Lawrence Frank?
 

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we was playin wit house money wit that pick
nikka drafted Darko to sit on the bench smh
witta team that we knew had a time limit
all dem nikkas was old

how we drop the ball with Melo,Wade,Bosh? even Kaman?
they was projected as franchise players
darko was a project
we was a playoff team wit all old pplayers
he wasnt think future so he dropped the ball imo

he can get a halfway pass on that everything else
he gotta go for that im sorry

Joe D had a chance to be Red Auerbach or Jerry West. If he had drafted any of those other guys the Pistons likely beat the Spurs in 05, beat MIA and DAL in 06, beat Cleveland and the Spurs in 07. I honestly dont' see how anyone beats them before Boston comes together. And then at that point if you make the Sheed for Lopez deal you have Melo, Wade, Bosh AND Lopez to build the next chapter with. That's what great GMs do, they see beyond the moment and beyond popular sentiment.
 

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:dwillhuh: Who the fukk is Rodney Stuckey? Seriously what has this nikka brought to the table? What has he really done to warrant more than $8 mil a year?

The nikka got lucky in the draft point blank. I can't give a nikka credit for having a consensus top 5 pick fall into his lap for 3 straight years.

And yeah what the fukk is a Lawrence Frank?

maaaaaan smmfh at rodney stuckey

i still remember i was in florida sayin he was gone be better than Rondo

smmfh i fukked up with dat one lolol

real shyt i be watchin the games it seem like sometimes he get mad when another nikka is goin off

i cant stand that nikka i smh everytime i see him
 
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