Phil Spencer Clears it up "He wouldnt buy the Scorpio to run most current Xbox Games"

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And @MeachTheMonster this comment implies that Scorpio will be having exclusives that aren't playable on Xbox One/S...
INCORRECT.
it will be just the way PC is now. You can game on different settings. In this case the settings will be automatically chosen based on the console you are playing it on. if its a regular xbox, you're getting the low settings for any game created to max out the scorps power.
 

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You clearly don't understand how these things work. Traditional consoles are dead. There are numerous benefits to having more horsepower regardless of resolution.

I like the video so here is what looks like is going to happen. This is clearly a PC like model, he dodged the "single package" question by Jeff. Essentially it will be like launching a steam game and in some games they automatically detect your hardware and then recommend how the game should run...allowing you to tweak. You won't be able to do that on the xbox one because the audience is different, the Scorpio will default to 4K if the source is available and then downsample to 1080P if that's the detected resolution.
i just said the same thing replying to someone else. so yes i do know how it works. i'm telling yall. stop tripping because the guy was trying to be honest and trying to keep the casuals from blowing their rent money on a console they wont even see most of the visual power on a non 4k tv. They are not trying to sell it like its a new console like before. ps2 ps3, etc. its a big brother to the medium brother S and little brother regular day one xbox.

its the i7 vs the i5 vs the i3.

all 3 can run windows.

all 3 can play games. but all 3 can't play games at certain resolutions and frame rates.

if your budget is in the i5 range. stay in your lane dont go get the i7 and cry about the price tag and how you aint getting what you thought you were getting because you still on a 1080p tv.
 

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because that price tag is about to be crazy. he's preparing us for it. he's letting yall know right now. if you aint got money to dedicate to your gaming RIG. then go get that cheaper XBox S which looks sweet as hell and its smaller with a lightweight price tag.i got a funny feeling yall aint going to want any parts of that price tag when it drops.

then think about it. what if you didnt have a 4k tv still. you would not only have to drop $700+ on a system then you would have to drop at minimum $700+ on a 4kTV(the price will keep coming down year after year).

thats a minimum $1400 purchase. Dont Do it unless you got the money to blow to get a brand new 4k TV anytime you want even if you dont have one now. Or you already got one and you're the type of gamer that Needs that perfect clarity on the screen. if thats you. get it. if that aint you. DO NOT BLOW YOUR RENT MONEY.
But he himself said that 4K isn't a mandate. Visual boosts doesn't come only in the form of higher resolution. He's basically creating confusion when it doesn't have to be so complicated.
 

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This stuff shouldn't even need all this talk.

Are you muthufukkas retarded:what:

It will have more power, it will output at 4K. Devs will chose how to use the power.

You gotta shytty 1080p set you should probably upgrade your tv before buying a Scorpio.
 

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I dont get it. Wtf is Team xbox doing?
 

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It's going to fail if this is their mentality.

Here are my reasons...
-The purpose of this console is to play games in 4K resolution and for VR shyt.
-The traditional games (non-VR games) will be on the Xbox One
-They cannot go into the PC gaming arena and expect to flex for a sustained period of time

This is a case where they have given the consumer too many options that are more affordable and more attractive than shelling out the money for Scorpio.

They way you're framing this, implies that MS is ready for this console to be a niche/enthusiast one and not something for the masses.


This Console isn't for the masses and it's for the enthusiast and the niche that's who there catering this too. This console is going to be close to a 1000 dollars I guarantee it and by the time it comes out the PC will already have a better graphic card then the whole gotdamn console that will be half the price.
 

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That was a headline Fatboi wrote. Not something that was actually said
No. He basically said it's worthless.

“You should buy [the Xbox One S], because Scorpio is not going to do anything for you,” Spencer said after asking the reviewer what TV he had – in this instance a 1080p set. “Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don't have a 4K TV, the benefit we've designed for, you're not going to see.

He said pretty much the same thing. Sure the exact verbiage is different but it's essentially the same thing. it's like if someone said you're very physically unattractive and someone was like "Yo dawg she said you ugly as fukk breh!." and you on some
":mjcry: She didn't say that breh"
 

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i just said the same thing replying to someone else. so yes i do know how it works. i'm telling yall. stop tripping because the guy was trying to be honest and trying to keep the casuals from blowing their rent money on a console they wont even see most of the visual power on a non 4k tv. They are not trying to sell it like its a new console like before. ps2 ps3, etc. its a big brother to the medium brother S and little brother regular day one xbox.

its the i7 vs the i5 vs the i3.

all 3 can run windows.

all 3 can play games. but all 3 can't play games at certain resolutions and frame rates.

if your budget is in the i5 range. stay in your lane dont go get the i7 and cry about the price tag and how you aint getting what you thought you were getting because you still on a 1080p tv.
I am not tripping, it's just the idea that Scorpio is a pointless device to most of the displays out there is flat out moronic.

But maybe it was a @Fatboi1 troll job. I don't have enough time to comb through all quotes.
 

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But he himself said that 4K isn't a mandate. Visual boosts doesn't come only in the form of higher resolution. He's basically creating confusion when it doesn't have to be so complicated.
Devs usualy chose resolution over framerate. It would be misleading to tell people they should buy a 4k console with a 1080p TV.
 

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I am not tripping, it's just the idea that Scorpio is a pointless device to most of the displays out there is flat out moronic.

But maybe it was a @Fatboi1 troll job. I don't have enough time to comb through all quotes.
Dudes getting bent out of shape because the verbiage wasn't exactly the same.


Still running a 1080p TV? Then you should forget about buying Xbox Scorpio.
“You should buy [the Xbox One S], because Scorpio is not going to do anything for you,” Spencer said after asking the reviewer what TV he had – in this instance a 1080p set. “Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don't have a 4K TV, the benefit we've designed for, you're not going to see.
Spencer: Scorpio won't do anything for you if you don't have a 4K TV

If I sum it up as "It's worthless", I'm not really off. Arguing otherwise is semantics.
 

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INCORRECT.
it will be just the way PC is now. You can game on different settings. In this case the settings will be automatically chosen based on the console you are playing it on. if its a regular xbox, you're getting the low settings for any game created to max out the scorps power.

No it doesn't
Ok, so the ONLY reason this console is being made is to run games in 4K and VR correct? Every game that releases for Scorpio will be available on Xbox One, but it's not worth getting one for unless you intend on getting into VR or want to play in 4K.

It sounds like a bad idea brehs, I'm sorry... and he's saying it's not even worth copping at all for the performance boost for existing games.
:what:

What?
 

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No. He basically said it's worthless.

“You should buy [the Xbox One S], because Scorpio is not going to do anything for you,” Spencer said after asking the reviewer what TV he had – in this instance a 1080p set. “Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don't have a 4K TV, the benefit we've designed for, you're not going to see.

He said pretty much the same thing. Sure the exact verbiage is different but it's essentially the same thing. it's like if someone said you're very physically unattractive and someone was like "Yo dawg she said you ugly as fukk breh!." and you on some
":mjcry: She didn't say that breh"
No "worthless" is not the same as saying "you won't see the benefit we designed it for"

If it was, you would not have felt the need to change the verbage.

This is just an attempt to reach for controversy by playing dumb, as you stans always do.
 

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This stuff shouldn't even need all this talk.

Are you muthufukkas retarded:what:

It will have more power, it will output at 4K. Devs will chose how to use the power.

You gotta shytty 1080p set you should probably upgrade your tv before buying a Scorpio.
but he said devs will choose how to use this power which means not every game will be 4K. Some games will probably just get a 1080P/60fps upgrade with visual enhancements to boot. How is that not worthy enough of an upgrade for a 1080P user? Hell, 4K downsampled to 1080P looks good as fukk.
 
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