Philly Votes to Regulate Bulletproof Glass in Corner Stores

[King Poetic]

Dumb ass move by a dumb ass council woman

Those stores closing shop and moving straight out of your area and u going to have a empty front there, cause knowing damn well no brother or sister going to open no business there without protection glass.

 

[DatNkkaCutty]

Nggas around the corner from ahki like....

 

[philmonroe]

guess i need to read the article cuz i still don't get it...what does bulletproof glass have to do with them being a store, deli, or restaurant? if the issue is what they're selling, then why not regulate that?

dumb as hell to force them to remove bulletproof glass

How many restaurants y'all cats went to with bulletproof glass? I see what saying because I don't think(,not certain) that restaurants are supposed to have the Bp glass. I might have read the article wrong but I do know I've never been to a restaurant that has Bp glass and I doubt y'all have either so I understand it from that point.

 

[Rawtid]

Not sure how removing bulletproof glass is going to hinder them from selling whatever they want, nor prevent loitering.

 

[Rawtid]

How many restaurants y'all cats went to with bulletproof glass? I see what saying because I don't think(,not certain) that restaurants are supposed to have the Bp glass. I might have read the article wrong but I do know I've never been to a restaurant that has Bp glass and I doubt y'all have either so I understand it from that point.

I'm still unsure of the connection. I mean most stores in the hood (liquor, carry out or bodega types) have bulletproof glass and for good reason. If the concern is selling drugs and loitering, removing bp glass is not helping that.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

How many restaurants y'all cats went to with bulletproof glass? I see what saying because I don't think(,not certain) that restaurants are supposed to have the Bp glass. I might have read the article wrong but I do know I've never been to a restaurant that has Bp glass and I doubt y'all have either so I understand it from that point.

i've been to plenty takeout spots in the hood with BP glass, some of these spots even had a few tables and eating area, but the person taking your order and the cooks are behind glass .

like i said, i don't see a reason to care if a restaurant/store/whatever has BP glass, the issue seems to be with the shady activities they facilitate, in which case they need to regulate the items they can sell. i know here in oakland a lot of corner stores are losing hard liquor licenses because of the type of activity/environment those establishments foster (loitering, violence, drugs). BP glass has nothing to do with it

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

If you feel threatened by the same community you "serve", why you there taking their hard earned money?

Plenty of mom and pops without bulletproof glass that turn a profit just fine.

 

[B86]

If your lives are put in danger, then DON'T set up shops in Black neighborhoods YOU STUPID fukkS Black folk need to learn how and where to spend their dollar

So...they aint gonna rob the black owners too? Literally every corner store in the hood that I was raised in has been robbed multiple times and at one point in time there were black owners of a couple of them.

Edit: Come to think of it, my aunt/uncle owned Macadoo's bar/store over in Homewood (a few of yall Pittsburgh natives know about that) and that's been robbed quite a few times

 

[smokeurobinson]

If you feel threatened by the same community you "serve", why you there taking their hard earned money?

Plenty of mom and pops without bulletproof glass that turn a profit just fine.

Is this comment also for Black folks? Because I've seen Black store owners with BP glass too.

 

[George's Dilemma]

guess i need to read the article cuz i still don't get it...what does bulletproof glass have to do with them being a store, deli, or restaurant? if the issue is what they're selling, then why not regulate that?

dumb as hell to force them to remove bulletproof glass

I didn't want to post the whole article due to forum rules, but this provides a little more context.

The approved bill, according to Philly.com, instructs the city’s Department of Licenses and Inspections to, by Jan. 1, 2021, “promulgate regulations to provide for the use or removal of any physical barrier” in stores that sell food and alcohol.

The approved bill “does not require mandatory removal” of the bulletproof glass, but rather a careful consideration, Councilwoman Helen Gym told Philly.com. The bill does, however, call for "tighter rules on seating, public restrooms and what can be sold at these stores," Fox 29 reported.



It's basically the same mentality that has a problem with ex-cons wearing bulletproof vests or the metal doors that were prominent during the crack era. If memory serves me well, I believe some states did enforce laws on those metal doors as a result of the association with illegal narcotics.

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

Is this comment also for Black folks? Because I've seen Black store owners with BP glass too.

Yeah to be totally honest.

If I lives in that community, I wouldn't feel a need to have bulletproof glass.

But if i live outside the community (better neighborhood), then i shouldn't be there exploiting while treating the inhabitants like animals. Simple as that.

 

[philmonroe]

I'm still unsure of the connection. I mean most stores in the hood (liquor, carry out or bodega types) have bulletproof glass and for good reason. If the concern is selling drugs and loitering, removing bp glass is not helping that.

I think the connection from the story is if they are supposed to be restaurants don't do something in poorer neighborhoods that you don't do in other ones. That's what I got. I think they should have them I just also see the restaurant part if that is a part of it.

i've been to plenty takeout spots in the hood with BP glass, some of these spots even had a few tables and eating area, but the person taking your order and the cooks are behind glass .

like i said, i don't see a reason to care if a restaurant/store/whatever has BP glass, the issue seems to be with the shady activities they facilitate, in which case they need to regulate the items they can sell. i know here in oakland a lot of corner stores are losing hard liquor licenses because of the type of activity/environment those establishments foster (loitering, violence, drugs). BP glass has nothing to do with it

No offense but why are you acting obtuse about what a restaurant is in this discussion?. I'm talking a restaurant that you and your friends goto dressed up and take ig pictures at if that's your thing. That kind of restaurant not no damn take out spot I'm the hood. Only places like that that I've been to also are places that sell beer and shyt. No actual restaurant like I described I've ever been to had Bp glass. I think that is some of the complaint the misuse of the designation "restaurant" even though like I said I can see why cats have the Bp glass

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Is this comment also for Black folks? Because I've seen Black store owners with BP glass too.

yea, people love these talking points on the net ignoring real life. if you're in a neighborhood that gets shot up and got folks doing stick ups on the regular, fukk your "if you dont feel safe leave" rhetoric (BTW a lot of these store owners are making 30-50k a year - they're not rich and don't have the skills or capital to be doing business in some upscale neighborhood), that BP glass may be the difference between being shot/killed and simply getting stuck for some cash.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I think the connection from the story is if they are supposed to be restaurants don't do something in poorer neighborhoods that you don't do in other ones. That's what I got. I think they should have them I just also see the restaurant part if that is a part of it.

No offense but why are you acting obtuse about what a restaurant is in this discussion?. I'm talking a restaurant that you and your friends goto dressed up and take ig pictures at if that's your thing. That kind of restaurant not no damn take out spot I'm the hood. Only places like that that I've been to also are places that sell beer and shyt. No actual restaurant like I described I've ever been to had Bp glass. I think that is some of the complaint the misuse of the designation "restaurant" even though like I said I can see why cats have the Bp glass

i'm not being obtuse, why would i bring nice restuarants into the discussion when it's clear these establishments they're targeting would never fit that bill? after reading the article, looks like this is the result of regulations that overreach due to misclassification of these stores/delis

 

[Rawtid]

I think the connection from the story is if they are supposed to be restaurants don't do something in poorer neighborhoods that you don't do in other ones. That's what I got. I think they should have them I just also see the restaurant part if that is a part of it.

Yeah but other neighborhoods don't have as much violence. Crime is high in the hood, we know this. The reason why it's high, is a story all in itself, but it is what it is. Some of these cities are at 300+ murders for the year. The stores are located in the neighborhoods where these murders are occurring. They would be dumb not to protect themselves for real.