Pitchfork apologizes for interviewing Chief Keef at a gun range

[hustlemania]

They aren't sorry. They are using Chief Keef to get ppl to talk about their site, eventually giving them hits. fukk em.

 

[theworldismine13]

We are way past your pro-black rhetoric and phony indignation at this point in time.

I can barely stomach your weak insight with all the blood shed the past few weeks in Chicago.

I just saw a video with 30+ Chicago teens with high powered assault rifles and semi-automatics.

That same video got 16 year old Lil Jojo shot 17 times in Chicago.

so you are way past pro -black? so what are you on now?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

so you are way past pro -black? so what are you on now?

Your pro black shyt is meaningless cause its just self-righteous lip service

You don't give a shyt about black advancement, you just use that as a cover to rationalize pushing corporatism

Youve repeatedly shytted on black culture and don't even consume it. Youre not fooling anybody

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Those cacs were in the office like "o my god. They really shoot and kill ppl?" fukking pathetic.

The President of Warner Bros. almost signed all 3 of them... he's probably sitting in his office right now like

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

The President of Warner Bros. almost signed all 3 of them... he's probably sitting in his office right now like

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Interscope is built to handle Gangster Rappers... Warner Bros? Not so much...

Jimmy Iovine's son is in his office reading Chief Keef's tweets like...

 

[tirademode]

Hipsters making light of gun violence ..

That's that shyt I don' like .

 

[spliz]

The President of Warner Bros. almost signed all 3 of them... he's probably sitting in his office right now like

 

[shazam]

You can't blame Pitchfork for promoting him in a tasteless way and obviate blame from Kanye and others who promote the guy.

Pitchfork is obviously fukking stupid but so is pretty much any publication that runs a story on Keef removed from context.

 

[theworldismine13]

Your pro black shyt is meaningless cause its just self-righteous lip service

You don't give a shyt about black advancement, you just use that as a cover to rationalize pushing corporatism

Youve repeatedly shytted on black culture and don't even consume it. Youre not fooling anybody

I use it as a cover to rationalize corporatism?????

The fuk are you talking about????

and yeah I shyt on black culture that doesnt meet high standards, so what? You got a problem with that? are you demanding that I consume some chief keef music cuz its black culture?

I have high standards I only consume black excellence, you demonic fuk

 

[TrueEpic08]

This shyt is dumb as hell. All these fans/websites/bloggers/record labels are backpedaling now and saying they dont condone or support this type of violence. BULLshyt. You supported and condoned it by signing them to deals, by listening to the music, by reviewing their mixtapes that are full of nothing but violence. Now all of a sudden people are sorry for interviewing him at a gun range? If this shyt had never happened, then the interview would not be a big deal.

Now all of a sudden some of the same posters on here that were making threads/posts about how gangsta and real GBE is, are some of the same motherfukkers that are crying now and saying this is an outrage. Where are the parents at? The same place they were when they were all making the music, the same place they were when they were filming the videos while smoking blunts, throwing up gang signs, and pointing guns at the camera. Yeah, just last week that shyt was "cool" to everybody, and now that they find out its real shyt its "wow, I cant believe this happened, this is an outrage"

These are the same people that a month from now will be making threads about how real so-and-so is, and then turn around and continue to clown somebody like Nas because "he dont bust his guns" Then another rapper will get killed and it will be "we gotta stop the violence"

Hip hop fans are the biggest hypocrites the world has ever seen. shyt makes me sick

You know the deal, as soon as it's a white person profiting off of the violence within Black communities and Black culture, it's an outrage, but when Blacks kill, maim and exploit each other for literally no reason, it's a "funny situation" (Close to something someone actually wrote in one of those Keef/JoJo threads).

But we keep perpetuating the hypocrisy, because Black male identity depends on maintaining it, and we don't want to explore the contradictions in that, now do we?

Maybe I shouldn't ask what Pitchfork do wrong. But what did they do thats different? What makes this situation any different than the thousand other gangster rappers and trappers that we seen already?

People have been getting murdered forever and rappers having been selling that same old "urban fantasy" forever. The only difference now is that Keef is slightly younger and we can connect the dots a little bit closer between the songs and the violence.

Lil Boosie is technically a murderer too. Would it be wrong for the media to promote any future Boosie projects?

Like others have alluded to, you could easily say that, after a certain point, entire swaths of Hip-Hop music are grossly irresponsible projects that do more harm to the perceptions that Blacks have about themselves, others have about Blacks and the interrelationship between the two.

But what's the real difference between portraying the destitution of the poor Black experience as a means of critiquing it and glorifying that context which arrests and molds the experiences of those in it? If you paint it in broad strokes like Pitchfork and other hipster sites often do, or like you did in that postulation, or like I did in the paragraph above, then you risk invalidating and erasing a great amount of actual commentary as illegitimate in trying to bleed the poison out. When thinking about Chief Keef and the irresponsibility of promoting him in a larger context, this is always a prevalent dilemma.

i dont get these comments, if pitchfork is stupid for promoting him how are kanye, jay-z, and dr dre not stupid also?

Yes. As are they for promoting their own images to some extent. As are we for perpetuating it as "real" and legitimate when we sure as shyt know better.

 

[theworldismine13]

You know the deal, as soon as it's a white person profiting off of the violence within Black communities and Black culture, it's an outrage, but when Blacks kill, maim and exploit each other for literally no reason, it's a "funny situation" (Close to something someone actually wrote in one of those Keef/JoJo threads).

But we keep perpetuating the hypocrisy, because Black male identity depends on maintaining it, and we don't want to explore the contradictions in that, now do we?



Like others have alluded to, you could easily say that, after a certain point, entire swaths of Hip-Hop music are grossly irresponsible projects that do more harm to the perceptions that Blacks have about themselves, others have about Blacks and the interrelationship between the two.

But what's the real difference between portraying the destitution of the poor Black experience as a means of critiquing it and glorifying that context which arrests and molds the experiences of those in it? If you paint it in broad strokes like Pitchfork and other hipster sites often do, or like you did in that postulation, or like I did in the paragraph above, then you risk invalidating and erasing a great amount of actual commentary as illegitimate in trying to bleed the poison out. When thinking about Chief Keef and the irresponsibility of promoting him in a larger context, this is always a prevalent dilemma.



Yes. As are they for promoting their own images to some extent. As are we for perpetuating it as "real" and legitimate when we sure as shyt know better.

yes there is some danger of oppressing some legitimate expression, but i would assert that the pendulum has gone so far in the freedom of expression side and with the advance of technology that the danger of that is miniscule, ironically i think most artists actually censor themselves or calibrate their songs because they already know what the game is and where the money is

but yeah we as a people definitely fuked up, i dont see how the rap world can try to cast blame on anybody else without acknowledging our part in it

 

[Nick Barnes]

GBE 300

 

[Turenne]

fukking CACs...

fukking hipster CACs at that. A special type of vermin.

 

[TrueEpic08]

yes there is some danger of oppressing some legitimate expression, but i would assert that the pendulum has gone so far in the freedom of expression side and with the advance of technology that the danger of that is miniscule, ironically i think most artists actually censor themselves or calibrate their songs because they already know what the game is and where the money is

but yeah we as a people definitely fuked up, i dont see how the rap world can try to cast blame on anybody else without acknowledging our part in it

I was alluding to this in part with that "arresting and molding context" thing, but yes, I agree.

I'll just say that there's a difference between "freedom of expression" and "freedom from critique" that a lot, a LOT, of people love to conflate. I am in no way, shape or form a censorship guy, even to my worst of worst ideological enemies, because it sets a dangerous precedent that can and will be used to my and others' disadvantage. But people like to take this and say that I can't say anything about a given artist, which is as dead wrong as can be. While I don't believe anything should really be censored for a variety of reasons, there is nothing that should be free from critique.

Until this dilemma is solved in the eyes of Hip-Hop fans in particular, that ancient worry about glorification of the worst elements of our culture and critique of the ideological space of the ghetto will always be a well founded one.