Pitchfork Reviews "Magna Carta....Holy Grail"

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Complex being called "hip-hop heads". :heh: They're dikkriders, pure and simple. Same with Vibe.

They did mention Jay's skill, but they said (and rightfully so) he's not rapping about anything substantial aside from a couple songs. And they Jay sampled to show he's "worldly", but in reality the pop culture references have become kinda tedious.

That Smells Like Teen Spirit interpolation was horrific though. I don't know what Jay and JT were thinking with that one.
So hiphop heads can't be dikkriders now? Hiphop if any genre houses the most dikkriders of all genres after pop.

Where did he mention Jay-z's skills?
Or is skills measured on a scale where the lowest is insubstantial subject of matter to very substantial subject of matter.

And why is it wrong of Jay-z to sample :what:

once you hear JT and Jay-Z duet on “and we all just entertainers/ And we’re stupid and contagious,” the Nirvana song becomes just another forgettable status symbol.

50% of times Jay doesn't rap about anything "substantial". He's never been one of the dumb-smart conscious rappers. Were Brookyn's Finest, Political As Usual and those joints wack as fukk too? Cause he's not addressing anything "substantial".
 

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So hiphop heads can't be dikkriders now? Hiphop if any genre houses the most dikkriders of all genres after pop.

Where did he mention Jay-z's skills?
Or is skills measured on a scale where the lowest is insubstantial subject of matter to very substantial subject of matter.

And why is it wrong of Jay-z to sample :what:


50% of times Jay doesn't rap about anything "substantial". He's never been one of the dumb-smart conscious rappers. Were Brookyn's Finest, Political As Usual and those joints wack as fukk too? Cause he's not addressing anything "substantial".

They didn't say sampling was wrong. They said they way he sampled was lame and inconsequential.

Nobody cares about how well you rap if you ain't rapping about shyt. Especially for an emcee of the calibur of Jay. MCHG just seemed like a game of how many brand names Jay could squeeze in without saying anything deeper than a quick mention about them.

And no, it's never fresh being a dikkrider.
 

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do people just like heaven cause its a throwback beat. that hook is grating
 

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That's not very difficult to figure out. These websites/magazines should hire people that have covered Hip Hop extensively throughout their careers. It doesn't make sense to have people who write reviews for Metal and Punk Rock most of the time writing reviews of rap albums. Pitchfork seriously used the same guy that reviewed Empire of The Sun's latest album to review Life is Good. These websites/magazines need a staff of writers that cover each genre exclusively. Oh, and hire more black people…
Nah... I think someone who knows a wide range of music has a better perspective. Listening to punk and jazz doesn't mean you can't understand rap... I listen to all types of shyt but I am still a hip hop head

Really it comes down to whether you agree with the reviewer or not. If someone from an approved hip hop site gave a review you didn't agree with you'd just find another reason to discredit them.

5.8 sound about right.
 

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So hiphop heads can't be dikkriders now? Hiphop if any genre houses the most dikkriders of all genres after pop.

Where did he mention Jay-z's skills?
Or is skills measured on a scale where the lowest is insubstantial subject of matter to very substantial subject of matter.

And why is it wrong of Jay-z to sample :what:



50% of times Jay doesn't rap about anything "substantial". He's never been one of the dumb-smart conscious rappers. Were Brookyn's Finest, Political As Usual and those joints wack as fukk too? Cause he's not addressing anything "substantial".

Right... Brooklyn's Finest, Politics As Usual, etc were great because they were Jay doing what he does best. Talking shyt

So when he throws in fine art & pop references it sounds like forced filler. Its like back when Joe Budden would do a freestyle after something happened just to make a punchline about it. shyts corny
 

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Twelve albums in, he’s still Muhammad Ali, he’s Michael Jackson, he’s Michael Jordan, he’s Frank Sinatra-- the latter is the most deflating comparison, if only because Jay-Z is using him as a prop for yet another lyric about how he did it “my way.” As tedious as these hoary references can be, it's worse when Magna Carta dabbles in contemporary name-drops and Jay-Z becomes Jay Leno-- mentions of Homeland, Instagram, Scott Boras, and Miley Cyrus’ twerkin’ incident bomb like failed monologue jokes between idle chatter.

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The only thing that will make my blood boil more than a pitchfork review is a needle drop review.
 

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The funniest thing about that review is that it proves that cacs don't actually know how to actually listen to hip hop.

The thing about Jay-Z is that he very rarely wastes a bar, even on a party joint. You'll notice how this review thinks the album is about Jay-Z telling you how great his life is. Well no. His life is great, but almost every song not so subtly tries to point out that it
ain't all roses.

Peep Holy Grail...that's a man that recognizes that his life, all things considered, is dope as fukk. The point of the song is to point out his own guilt about whining about fame when shyt is real out in the real world.

I mean these reviewers and mad nikkas in here really just skim shyt.

Take Picasso Baby.

The point of that song is that there are two Pablo's. Picasso and Escobar. Think about the first couple of bars. He's telling you that he's loving the high art, the excesses of wealth...but wait, he also misses the excitement of the streets. It's plainly obvious when he says he wants his wife to fukk him like a prostitute in a dirty hotel room...but on a million dollars. He wants shyt both ways. But he recognizes that he can't.

Much as we clowned him for all that "dualities" bullshyt...that's really the only way to listen to this album so that you get it.

Peep, somewhere in America...he's not just talkin slick, you can sense his frustration that "blue bloods try to clown" on him...make no mistake, this is about white people. That's why he makes a big show of buying out your neighbor and forcing your racist ass to deal with it, petulantly yes, because fukk you.

Oceans speaks for itself.

Heaven speaks for itself.

Nickles and Dimes speaks for itself.

Part II speaks for itself. nikkas really gonna hate on black love though, it's whatever.

Listen to Jay-Z Blue. That's probably the most heartfelt song he's ever done because he's letting you know how terrified he is of failing as a father. You can have all the money in the world, and survived all sorts of shyt, but he's paranoid that he might fail at this fatherhood thing. That's so real brehs. :ohlawd:

This album is :mj: status. I could really give a fukk what a cac says.
 
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