Planned Parenthood finally admits that its founder was a horrific bigot

[thekingsmen]

Most of these dudes are idiots. Abortion services are an extremely small part of what PP provides.

Here is the apologists who clearly knows nothing about PP.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

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Looks like you are right in that they are being *misleading* with the 3% figure. I'll stop quoting it as gospel. However, that does not take away from the objective fact that they *do* provide otherwise unobtainable services to low-income/poor women. It's just an "at what volume" question now. I don't really care for the population control narrative, so you can go somewhere else with that nonsense.

The main Planned Parenthood Web site says first-trimester abortions can cost up to $1,500. Some affiliate clinic Web sites provide a range of costs: a Western Pennsylvania clinic lists $390 to $1,090 for abortions, and first trimester abortion is priced at $515 in Arizona.

Non-government health services revenues refer to money collected for health care services, such as abortions, that are not covered by government programs. (The largest source of revenue for Planned Parenthood is government funding, but federal funds can’t be used for abortions. Planned Parenthood does not separate its federal and state funds in its annual report.)

Using this calculation, advocates and opponents of abortion rights have calculated somewhere between 15 percent and 37 percent of the organization’s annual non-government health services revenue comes from abortion services. Depending on which price you use, you can even get up to 55 percent. But this type of math is speculative and has limitations. For one, it does not take into account sliding payment scales for patients or reflect costs absorbed by insurance.

Another way to calculate is by the number of total patients. Recall Planned Parenthood health centers saw 2.7 million patients (men and women) in 2013. If the 327,653 abortion procedures were given to individual patients, patients who received abortions would account for 12 percent of total patients.

There were 4.6 million clinical visits in 2013. If each woman who received an abortion visited the clinic only once for the procedure, abortions comprised 7 percent of visits that year. If each woman visited twice (a Q&A on the Web site says women need to schedule a follow-up appointment after an abortion), abortions comprised 14 percent of visits. But there is no way of knowing an accurate figure beyond the 7 percent.

The 3 percent figure that Planned Parenthood uses is misleading, comparing abortion services to every other service that it provides. The organization treats each service — pregnancy test, STD test, abortion, birth control — equally. Yet there are obvious difference between a surgical (or even medical) abortion, and offering a urine (or even blood) pregnancy test. These services are not all comparable in how much they cost or how extensive the service or procedure is.

With limited data, there is no accurate way to measure how much of Planned Parenthood’s activities comprise abortions. Both sides are using meaningless and incomplete comparisons to make their argument, and the public should be wary of both figures.

 

[bnew]

Once I heard about what she was about and THEN when I realized where all the planned parenthood’s are located in most cities it all made sense..put it this way ain’t no planned parenthood in Santa Monica but it’s like 30 in South LA

Planned parenthood isn't solely an abortion provider, they provide affordable health services too.

 

[thekingsmen]

Planned parenthood isn't solely an abortion provider, they provide affordable health services too.

Such as?

 

[Threnody]

They need to admit that they keeping that same energy

 

[Kenny West]

Looks like you are right in that they are being *misleading* with the 3% figure. I'll stop quoting it as gospel. However, that does not take away from the objective fact that they *do* provide otherwise unobtainable services to low-income/poor women. It's just an "at what volume" question now. I don't really care for the population control narrative, so you can go somewhere else with that nonsense.

Fair enough, agree to disagree

+rep

 

[bnew]

Such as?

Our Services | Affordable Healthcare & Sex Education

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/facts-figures/annual-report

Planned Parenthood Annual Report

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Lowest conception rate in history shows otherwise

The rate has been declining steadily since 1971. What is causing that decline?


The historically low birthrate, explained in 3 charts

It’s not yet clear exactly what’s driving the trend, and the CDC authors don’t offer any guesses. Some, like the economist Lyman Stone, have suggested America’s “historic collapse in childbearing” is being driven by the fact that society isn’t organized to support people having all the babies they’d like to. Others have blamed the economy.

Whatever the cause, researchers from Columbia University, the University of Illinois, and other universities warned in a 2018 Hill commentary that a low birthrate is another contributor to the “aging society” in the US — where the proportion of the population over 65 is greater than the proportion under age 15 — and that the effects of this demographic makeup “will reverberate for years to come.”

But there are also two pieces of good news embedded in the data, especially for women. A decline in fertility is largely being driven by a dramatic drop in teen births and women joining the workforce. Second, America is simply looking more like its economic peers when it comes to the fertility rate — and that can be partially explained by the drop in unintended pregnancies.

Ultimately, it may be too soon to panic about a “baby bust.” It is time, however, for some sober thought about what social programs and policies are needed to address a demographic shift that is well underway.

Further in that article:

A dramatic drop in the teen birthrate and an increase in older moms has nudged the fertility rate down

In the chart below, you can see the birthrate stratified by the age group of American women. There’s one line that takes a dramatic nosedive: the teen birthrate, which has halved since 2007.

There are various reasons for this, as Vox explained, but a major one is that we have better access to birth control. Women these days are just as likely to be sexually active as they were in the past, but how they use contraceptives has changed:

The percentage of sexually active teens who used at least one type of birth control the last time they had sex rose from 78 percent in 2007 to 86 percent in 2012. More teens gravitated toward better types of birth control — like pills, IUDs, or implants — rather than relying on lower-quality birth control like condoms.

So — surprise, surprise! — giving women a technology that allowed them to control their fertility led to fewer teen pregnancies. And this dramatic drop in the teen birthrate has contributed to the overall decline in fertility.

In this chart, you’ll also notice another, related good news story: that the birthrate has actually increased for older moms. Women ages 35 to 44 are more likely to have kids these days than they were 20 or 30 years ago.

The mystery of the falling teen birth rate

For five years now, America's teen birth rate has plummeted at an unprecedented rate, falling faster and faster. Between 2007 and 2013, the number of babies born to teens annually fell by 38.4 percent, according to research firm Demographic Intelligence. This drop occurred in tandem with steep declines in the abortion rate. That suggests that the drop isn't the product of more teenagers terminating pregnancies. More simply, fewer girls are getting pregnant.

Couple this with the *fact* that abortion rates are dropping and, well, I don't see how people can push the population control narrative.

 

[valet]

Won't matter. Coli c00ns will still support Planned Parenthood despite its racist practices.

 

[Kenny West]

The rate has been declining steadily since 1971. What is causing that decline?


The historically low birthrate, explained in 3 charts



Further in that article:



The mystery of the falling teen birth rate



Couple this with the *fact* that abortion rates are dropping and the population control narrative starts to look even dumber than it already looked.

You're trying to get too technical. No need for all that

Sanger was a racist anti family eugenicst and now we're in the age where conception is at its lowest and the objects of her hate abort children the most of all groups.


Mission fukking accomplished

 

[thekingsmen]

Our Services | Affordable Healthcare & Sex Education

Planned Parenthood Annual Report

Planned Parenthood Annual Report

What man goes into this clinic for care?

Free Clinics do these services without the 95% abortion rate.

 

[JetFueledThoughts]

And you two fools think Malcolm X and MLK grow on trees.

fukking stupid

No dumbass, of course they don’t grow on trees. But to disqualify one person’s potential to change the world, because they grew up in a single parent household, is one of the most things I’ve heard lately.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Malthusians and Eugenicists all over the thread like its nuffin

 

[Dreadknox77]

Evil bytch, but without abortion our society would have collapsed.

The black race in America would have been lord of the flys redux.

All that crime in the 70s and 80s with more babies being born and raised in it?

The society is on the brink of collapse right now, so I dunno about that point .

fukk that evil bytch

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

You're trying to get too technical. No need for all that

Sanger was a racist anti family eugenicst and now we're in the age where conception is at its lowest and the objects of her hate abort children the most of all groups.


Mission fukking accomplished