
I can't argue with that logic, I hear you breh. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to tipping or not though. You just can't expect to be waited on if you are shown to not value the waitservice. I for one tip generously at 20% as default. It can go up or down depending on my service. I agreed with "why am I tipping you for doing youre job" when I was a kid, but I grew up and understood more. Then after becoming a club manager at one point and going out with women in the industry, I saw things differently. Ive stood on both sides so I get what youre saying.
The difference I think people arent seeing (the rest of this is no longer directed at you) is the service industry in general. Its SERVICE. YOU ARE SERVED. You pay for the food you eat everywhere, not be served. You go to a Diner to be served food. Comparing self serve/fast food dining to traditional restaurants is bogus as hell. You have a person waiting on your beck and call. You don't get to sit down at a table and have someone ask what you would like to eat/drink at Burger King. At a sitdown, someone makes it convenient for you to not have to stand in a long line just to order food. At BK, you stand around waiting and once you get your food the service is over. There is no REAL service in fast food. You say why don't we tip at BK when all they do is add up your order and hand you a bag of premade low grade slop two feet away. At a sitdown, you don't have to get up and get condiments to your liking or get refills etc. shyt, you don't even have to pay for your food upfront. You can enjoy the ambiance and decor with your company. That is something you can't do with fast food. The cost of that convenience and decor is mostly covered by offsetting the staff pay to tipping. Everything that they arent charging you extra for is being "charged" to the waitstaff essentially and its up to their good service to recoup the difference directly from the customer. Any other business, this charge is hidden and gained in the books under the guise of something else. Its all relative. There are restaurants that don't allow tips and pay their staff comparable wages but everything is much more expensive than it would traditionally be. That $12 burger at a chain is now a $18 burger. That $21 premium cut burger at a nice restaurant is now a $32-35 burger. Plus they don't get to keep all their tips anyway, they usually have to give a percentage (tip-out) BACK to the restaurant, to the bartenders and to the table bussers as well. So if you don't want to tip, thats cool, no judgement. But you don't want to tip because they didn't do anything but bring your food then don't ask to sit down, don't be specific about where you want to sit down, don't ask about the menu, don't ask for water, don't ask for recommendations, get your own silverware and plates, go pick your own food up, pay upfront and look like some shyt you and some buddies can put together with extra lawn furniture and two cans of paint. The places that you do that at are called Buffets and Fastfood, not Fine Diners and Restaurants because they offer table-service. The main nikkas that don't tip be the ones asking for the most shyt, and that's petty as hell lol. So nah, I will tip...unless my waiter fukks up
If you guys don't like to tip, cool. Im not a server and its not my food but keep the ice grill to yourself when I walk in, cut through your line of a 20m wait while you

, get shown my usual choice table right in front of the screen

, get comped half my meal

, a free round of shots or a free drink when I pop in just to "check the score" of the game

and you overhear the cute bartender/waitress telling me she left her charger at my crib last night.

while you still standing in from of the door waiting for a table still like


Its level to th-...nevermind. Y'all don't need any...tips.