Please help me understand why socialism is a bad thing.

[ill]

Saw this on FB earlier

"An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on) These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation."

 

[CHL]

Which country in history with over 330 million diverse people has successfully implemented socialism/state socialism

Again

What is Socialism?

Which States have implemented Socialism?

Which States have implemented State Capitalism?

I'm not going to engage with you if we're not on the same page with the terms we're using.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Again


I'm not going to engage with you if we're not on the same page with the terms we're using.

Doesnt matter which term you use, SOCIALIST ECONOMY WILL NEVER WORK IN AMERICA I dont want some racist CAC Czar determing my lot in life Keep that shyt in Australia or whatever Scandinavian country your from

 

[CHL]

Doesnt matter which term you use, SOCIALIST ECONOMY WILL NEVER WORK IN AMERICA I dont want some racist CAC Czar determing my lot in life Keep that shyt in Australia or whatever Scandinavian country your from

See this is what @JahFocus CS has to deal with every time he explains something.


Most of the problem is you refuse to just define basic terms first. Much of the confusion and misunderstanding would be cleared up immediately.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Another thread of straight trolling

What if the no trolling rule was actually enforced in HL?

 

[CACtain Planet]

See this is what @JahFocus CS has to deal with every time he explains something.


Most of the problem is you refuse to just define basic terms first. Much of the confusion and misunderstanding would be cleared up immediately.

I dont need you to "Bernie-Splain" to me what a socialist economy is, I am well versed on socialism, Marxism, Leninism, Collectivism, Communalism and whatever other isms you want to throw out there...The shyt doesnt work for a 330 million heterogeneous population with the majority being racist..Like I said, keep that shyt in Aussie land

 

[Gonzo]

Saw this on FB earlier

Good post. But I feel it is making something that is highly complex appear overly simple. Besides, some type of punishment would be rendered for "bad grades" to correct the undesired behavior...you wouldn't just let it all spiral to hell.

 

[Gonzo]

I dont need you to "Bernie-Splain" to me what a socialist economy is, I am well versed on socialism, Marxism, Leninism, Collectivism, Communalism and whatever other isms you want to throw out there...The shyt doesnt work for a 330 million heterogeneous population with the majority being racist..Like I said, keep that shyt in Aussie land

Wouldn't it be the great equalizer? Classism is the close relative of racism.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Wouldn't it be the great equalizer? Classism is the close relative of racism.

All of the Czars would be CAC so how is that an equalizer?

 

[Gonzo]

All of the Czars would be CAC so how is that an equalizer?

Breh come on....I thought HL was serious without this CAC this CAC that talk.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Breh come on....I thought HL was serious without this CAC this CAC that talk.

Would a cracker not be appointed as Czar to make a determination of what proletariat does what?

 

[Tate]

Socialism is actually very good.

Which country in history with over 330 million diverse people has successfully implemented socialism/state socialism

Bub there's been like 4 countries ever with 300 million people

Saw this on FB earlier

This is just groundbreaking stuff here

 

[duckbutta]

It would only be bad at first...and "at first" is an indeterminate amount of time based on how long it takes all the people who are doing well aka "the 1%" to take their ball and go home (oh you want to be a socialist society okay well then i am going to take my technology (apple, microsoft, hp etc) and manual labor (oil industry, car industry, etc) and my healthcare (insurance, doctors, nurses, etc) and I am going to go to a non socialist nation.

Eventual the country, no mater how big, would come out of it and then socialism would work. Otherwise...everybody would just fukking die.

That classroom experiment is such a hilariously bad example. We did the exact same thing in my Poly Sci class when I was in college and guess what...everybody got a fukking A in the class. Because everybody studied. Because nobody wanted to be the weak link and drag the average down. Because that is how socialism really works...in that people WOULDN'T set around and just be lazy bums looking for handouts.

 

[ADemonYouKnow]

It's bad because that's what my tv told me

 

[CACtain Planet]

Bub there's been like 4 countries ever with 300 million people

Have any of those countries had a successful socialist economic structure?