Please help me understand why socialism is a bad thing.

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fukk out of here with that nonsense. I negged you for being a fukkboy on a consistent basis. @DEAD7 disagrees with me on these issues too but I've never negged that breh.

I have painstakingly spelled things out in detail in probably DOZENS of threads. I don't think there's much to talk about with you at this point when you refuse to read, are purposely (or accidentally? but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) obtuse, and/or decide to troll. So fukk it :yeshrug:
Socialism/communism advocates are funny to me. You guys think your way forward is the only way, and ignore all the obvious pitfalls and past failures of your ideology. You know what's some fukkboy shyt? Pretending to give a fukk about workers in a bid to grab power and property. Not to mention u think the shyt will happen overnight, but have no kind of realistic roadmap to get there. And u still talk about the relationship between workers and capital like it's 1869. So most of the fukk shyt is coming from your camp homie. I think socialism like most political/economic systems has some very good components and ideas, but just like every other system it's not the be all end all and Im high key done debunking the same tired arguments. Pure socialism has been failing for the last 150 years and that will never change.
 

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Socialism/communism advocates are funny to me. You guys think your way forward is the only way, and ignore all the obvious pitfalls and past failures of your ideology. You know what's some fukkboy shyt? Pretending to give a fukk about workers in a bid to grab power and property. Not to mention u think the shyt will happen overnight, but have no kind of realistic roadmap to get there. And u still talk about the relationship between workers and capital like it's 1869. So most of the fukk shyt is coming from your camp homie. I think socialism like most political/economic systems has some very good components and ideas, but just like every other system it's not the be all end all and Im high key done debunking the same tired arguments. Pure socialism has been failing for the last 150 years and that will never change.

:heh: I don't recall ever seeing a legitimate point from you, just poor reading comprehension and misrepresentation of arguments. So all that talk about you debunking anything is straight up :mjlol:

S'all good though.

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Logic goes out the window when discussing socialism. #LowerLearning
Darth humanist doesn't seem to want to entertain the question. What is your belief as far as how socialist policies should be implemented in society? What is your personal flavor of socialism?
 

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Its not bad necessarily but it has to be firmly ingrained in the political system across the board for 12-20 years to ensure that the addition doesnt spiral to outright fascism...when legislation gets passed (hypothetically with Bernie for instance) under democratic socialism or whatever you want to call it, its fine, but if a repub like cruz was to win afterwards..he'd just repeal everything liberal, keep everything thats federalist and then become a full-blown police state. theres a reson why cruz said he wants 100% data collection power for secret services.
 

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The "official" definition for Socialism is vague because it encompasses a variety of economic structures.

We'd probably be better off just discussing a certain type of socialism ITT.
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These boys STAY moving the goal posts :mjlol:

Oh, thats not socialism...this is socialism :troll:

On some "no true scotsman" bullshyt :heh:
The faux objectivity is killing me. Then crawling back to #lowerlearning excuse because you are afraid to admit there are valid points against the ideal you hold so dear.

But heck it seems socialism is so perfect there is no reasonable counter points for it :troll:
 

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The faux objectivity is killing me. Then crawling back to #lowerlearning excuse because you are afraid to admit there are valid points against the ideal you hold so dear.

But heck it seems socialism is so perfect there is no reasonable counter points for it :troll:
fukk it...i'll say it...Socialism is bad for the psychology of a society.

I'll just come right out and drop that and keep it moving.

I'm a nihilist more or less...but hell...it is, what it is.
 

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:heh: I don't recall ever seeing a legitimate point from you, just poor reading comprehension and misrepresentation of arguments. So all that talk about you debunking anything is straight up :mjlol:

S'all good though.

Trump 2016 :win:
Now its "illegitimate points" :mindblown:

Breh, you can disagree with people but you can't keep saying they don't understand you.
 

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There's no such thing as "pure socialism". There are various types of socialisms, some that still heavily involve markets, some that involve decentralised planning, centralised planning, or a mix (and all of these have different forms and models). That's why you can't just equate socialism to "State ownership of the means of production".
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