Poll: Has any rap label had a bigger/more successful year than Bad Boy in 1997?

Has any record label had a bigger/more successful year than Bad Boy in 1997?

  • No

    Votes: 27 57.4%
  • Yes

    Votes: 20 42.6%

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His point of view is irrelevant in this instance - I've provided you a comprehensive formula to assess success

No, YOUR point of view is irrelevant. You were not addressed the question. You're like a little child running into the room who overhears something and starts yelling about shyt. Despite this, I'll address you anyway since you want some attention so bad.

If he was speaking purely on sales, I would be interested to see if his claim was valid.

Impact I can speak on.

Now run along my friend.
 

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He broke it down. Bad Boys still holds the record for biggest single year for a rap label ever as far as Hit singles and certifications. The Hits were endless. Just look at this:

Hypontize - #1
Can't Nobody Hold Me Down - #1
Missing You - #1
Mo money Mo Problems - #1
Been Around The World - #2
All About The Benji's - #2
Feels So Good - #5


That's 7 Top 5 Singles, 6 in the Top 2, 4 #1. There hasn't been that type of dominance on the pop charts for a rap label since. The numbers till this day are staggering when you analyze them joints. Mind you, LAD, NWO and HW were all #1 albums too.

Out of the three artists who would you say was the biggest act of 1997? B.I.G. and Puff were huge but Mase was pretty much the Drake of the late 90s.

No, YOUR point of view is irrelevant. You were not addressed the question. You're like a little child running into the room who overhears something and starts yelling about shyt. Despite this, I'll address you anyway since you want some attention so bad.

If he was speaking purely on sales, I would be interested to see if his claim was valid.

Impact I can speak on.

Now run along my friend.

Even if I did somehow only specify "impact", how many rap labels had a more impactful year than Bad Boy in 1997?

Puffy, B.I.G. and Mase were inescapable in all aspects of the music industry. They won all the awards, they dominated the radio airplay and they dominated MTV and other music stations. These guys had all the seasons in 1997 locked down: B.I.G. in the spring/summer, Puff in the summer/fall and Mase in fall/winter.

The run that they had in 1997 essentially birthed the "jiggy" and over-materialistic genre of rap that is still dominant on the mainstream stage today in 2015.

Shady/Aftermath/G Unit run 2002-2005

I specified only one year though. And even if I didn't I doubt that there's many runs more successful than Bad Boy's from 1994-1998.
 

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Out of the three artists who would you say was the biggest act of 1997? B.I.G. and Puff were huge but Mase was pretty much the Drake of the late 90s.

Biggie was the Biggest Rap Act of 97 cause his death and the success of "Life After Death" basically spring boarded the whole thing. Look how Puffy released the albums:

LAD - MARCH (LATE WINTER, ALL SPRING)
NWO - JULY (ALL SUMMER EARLY FALL)
HW - OCT (LATE FALL, EARLY WINTER)

Everyone was also on everyone else songs so it was like they were a Trio of stars making hit after hit records. Also the singles were stretched out so that Big, Ma$e and Puffy were literally on songs all year long. Hypnotize and Can't Nobody Hold Me Down were the two songs that began the run, Biggie wasn't in "Can't Hold Me Down" but he was in the intro of the video. Then they transitioned to All About The Benji's and Missing You, again Both records with Biggie or about Big. Then from that it was "Mo Money, Mo Problems" to "Been Around The World" to "Honey" (Biggie would of probably been on this record if he lived). Remember they also had the street records pumping too.

Then they finish the year off with "Feels So Good" and "Why You Looking" introducing the Neptunes before "Superthug" and it was bigger hit on the charts. So Ma$e was positioned after Big's death to be the Biggest rapper in New York after Biggie, yes even over NaS and Jay cause the way everything just lined up for him. Had "Double Up" been the hard street album he promised in The Source with the tiger, who knows what would of happen. But to me for 97 it goes Biggie and the impact of his death. Ma$e for his flow and charisma and then Puffy for bringing it all together and keeping everything afloat after Big's death. But it was amazing to see a rap label shut down all four quarters of a whole year. That 97 was so massive it bleed into 1998.
 
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No, YOUR point of view is irrelevant. You were not addressed the question. You're like a little child running into the room who overhears something and starts yelling about shyt. Despite this, I'll address you anyway since you want some attention so bad.

If he was speaking purely on sales, I would be interested to see if his claim was valid.

Impact I can speak on.

Now run along my friend.

Brehs, here we have an example of someone trying to compare another person to a child quite obviously because they've been compared to a child their whole life :beli:

Muthaphukka is repeating the phrase I said to him . . "run along now" like it's his, prolly because he's so use to being talked to like a kid that he feels a legitimate claim to the phrase

Like a child, he has issues understanding concepts and in this case the concept is rather quite simple. He wants to assess impact like it's going to be dictated by mythical terms when the music industry has a quite straightforward measurement - it's called Nielson Soundscan and the Billboard charts - perhaps this idiot thinks his diluted point of view has some pseudo baring on the actual status of success
 

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Biggie was the Biggest Rap Act of 97 cause his death and the success of "Life After Death" basically spring boarded the whole thing. Look how Puffy released the albums:

LAD - MARCH (LATE WINTER, ALL SPRING)
NWO - JULY (ALL SUMMER EARLY FALL)
HW - (LATE FALL, EARLY WINTER)

Everyone was also on everyone else songs so it was like they were a Trio of stars making hit after hit records. Also the singles were stretched out so that Big, Ma$e and Puffy were literally on songs all year long. Hypnotize and Can't Nobody Hold Me Down were the two songs that began the run, Biggie wasn't in "Can't Hold Me Down" but he was in the intro of the video. Then they transitioned to All About The Benji's and Missing You, again Both records with Biggie or about Big. Then from that it was "Mo Money, Mo Problems" to "Been Around The World" to "Honey" (Biggie would of probably been on this record if he lived). Remember they also had the street records pumping too.

Then they finish the year off with "Feels So Good" and "Why You Looking" introducing the Neptunes before "Superthug" and it was bigger hit on the charts. So Ma$e was positioned after Big's death to be the Biggest rapper in New York after Biggie, yes even over NaS and Jay cause the way everything just lined up for him. Had "Double Up" been the hard street album he promised in The Source with the tiger, who knows what would of happen. But to me for 97 it goes Biggie and the impact of his death. Ma$e for his flow and charisma and then Puffy for bringing it all together and keeping everything afloat after Big's death. But it was amazing to see a rap label shut down all four quarters of a whole year. That 97 was so massive it bleed into 1998.

Yeah, I'd have to agree as well as if it wasn't for B.I.G. dying those albums by Puff and Mase may not have even be released in '97. I remember reading somewhere that Life After Death was predicted to be an even bigger album and would have probably went on to become the first hip-hop album to go platinum in its first week on sale, but due to B.I.G.'s death coming shortly after Pac's it scared away a lot of potential pop music customers from purchasing the album.

We're unlikely to ever see another rap label or even artist dominate a year in terms of commercial success as Bad Boy did in 1997. No Limit did their thing the following year, but I remember someone exposing the fact that the way in which those No Limit albums received their 'Gold' and 'Platinum' status wasn't sincere as in most cases Master P would just stick the same code on the back of the less popular acts albums as were on the compilation albums. With Bad Boy there was no discrepancy as to how they managed to sell 23 million copies in 1997.
 

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No Limit 96-2000ish
Death Row 93-96ish
3-6 Mafia 97-2001ish
YMCMB 07-12ish
Rocafela 98-03ish
Interscope 99-04ish
Bricksquad 09-13ish
Def Jam 88-93ish
So So Def 00ish
Timbaland's Label 96-00ish
Nelly's Label 00-05ish
Neptunes Label 00-05ish

Not specific years I can't think as in depth as OP right now but those would be my top "alternate" runs.

Bad Boy did have a strong ass year though
You're just throwing shyt at the wall
 

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It looks a wrap - badboy '97 & No Limit '98 had the greatest years in terms of labels ever. Different styles but massive in their own right.


So who is #3? Did Eminem ever drop an album during the same year as Fif?
 
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