Popovich says Euro Players work harder

[NYC Rebel]

All that "EXTRA" hard work on fundamentals really paid off for ol Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili last night


Gino the turnover machine and Tony the chucker

Dudes like Manu and Tony, shyt...Dirk and other great Euros stay hitting unorthodox, off the wrong foot shots yet niqqas still try to give them some fundamental pass.

fukk outta here.

 

[yseJ]

this thread is still goin on and people actually use european players struggles in the finals as some kind of evidence ?

 

[yseJ]

manu shoudlnt be lumped together with euros who grew up in europe tho....not to stereotype a lot but most south american athletes like to play sports like they play soccer...flashy, lots of technique and skill over pragmatism and fundamentals.

 

[NYC Rebel]

this thread is still goin on and people actually use european players struggles in the finals as some kind of evidence ?

You must be crazy if you think I used this series to say Manu is nothing more than a streetballer and Tony Parker is a shoot first PG that can't distribute.

I've long said that.

Many of these Euro ball players styles are no different than American players, yet they get this "fundamentally sound" and "effort player" pass for qualities used against American players.

It's bullshyt.

 

[bzb]

No...you're overfocusing on my Lance comment now.

Bottomline, you tried to say Manu is a guy who relies on superior skills when he's nothing but a Argentinian streetball that idiots like you give a pass as being highly skilled and a bunch of corny ass unmeasurable superlatives.

The same way that Tony Parker is a shoot first point guard like your star American ball player that isn't a great distributor when he's not scoring, yet it isn't held against him because of this contrived Euro pass you guys keep handing him.

fukk outta here. That Euro thing is expired and tired.

Most European players that beast here are as unfundamentally sound as the American players that have it used against them.

i see why other people gave up on this thread. you been using invalid comparisons which prove other people's points and you apparently think players who are more skilled than athletic don't exist. you caught up on this "euro" terminology like it's offensive or something. i really doubt you ever played any street ball or any organized ball for that matter. either way lunch and other topics here are more important/entertaining than this discussion. 2 up 2 down.

 

[yseJ]

You must be crazy if you think I used this series to say Manu is nothing more than a streetballer and Tony Parker is a shot first PG.

I've long said that.

Many of these Euro ball players styles are no different than American players, yet they get this "fundamentally sound" and "effort player" pass for qualities used against American players.

It's bullshyt.

I wasnt talking about you in particular, although I disagree with your view on the subject.

like what does tony parker being a shot first pg has to do with anything ?

you are trying to say that the other sides argument is that americans are lazy, egoistical and less team oriented....but its not...at least I dont think so

europeans work harder on little things not because they want to/ are inherently more effort...but because they HAVE to... and are more coachable because they are brought up to listen to the coaches religiously and will get their ass kicked...thats all the point is. its cultural differences in approaching athletes.

in turn, tons of coaches in the NBA end up nothing more than figureheads who are content where they are because players do almost all work for them.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

i see why other people gave up on this thread. you been using invalid comparisons which prove other people's points and you apparently think players who are more skilled than athletic don't exist. you caught up on this "euro" terminology like it's offensive or something. i really doubt you ever played any street ball or any organized ball for that matter. either way lunch and other topics here are more important/entertaining than this discussion. 2 up 2 down.

Nah. He hasn't

 

[NYC Rebel]

i see why other people gave up on this thread. you been using invalid comparisons which prove other people's points and you apparently think players who are more skilled than athletic don't exist. you caught up on this "euro" terminology like it's offensive or something. i really doubt you ever played any street ball or any organized ball for that matter. either way lunch and other topics here are more important/entertaining than this discussion. 2 up 2 down.

Whatever you say, duke.

I countered YOUR beliefs about Manu being skilled and leaning on some sort of game that is an outgrowth of playing in Europe when his game reflects nothing more than a typical American streetball gunner while having a big nose and flailing hair which is now leaving. Tony Parker is a shoot first PG that isn't a good passer yet is fortunate enough to play with the greatest PF in NBA history. Their games are run of the mill American ball player we've seen.

 

[Urahara_Kisuke]

*sees all these crazy ass comparisons and titangraphs......*

 

[I Got Werk]

Here's the entire article the quotes in the OP are from

San Antonio Spurs may be doing something right by drafting international athletes - ESPN The Magazine - ESPN

Great read. There's more to it than just those quotes.

Its not that he dislikes Americans but they avoid former AAU players. Made an exception for Danny Green but that's what it is.

In AAU, anyone who pays a $16 fee and finishes a background check and an online clinic can coach. In the FIBA club system in Europe, although requirements vary from country to country, coaches must earn various licenses, which often require them to complete intensive training, covering everything from X's and O's to nutrition.

Youth basketball's beauties and alarms, depending how you look at it, are evident from the opening tip. On an early possession, one of the Jayhawks spins, dribbles, loses and regains balance -- holding the ball for what seems like an eternity -- before drawing contact and hitting a layup. "And one!" he yells. A few possessions later, one of the Playaz dribbles up the floor, barreling through every Jayhawk like a fullback as his teammates stand alone, and throws up a wild layup, nowhere close.

The way the Spurs see it, though, the biggest divide isn't structural but cultural. Something has happened to basketball in the country that invented it, as well-documented as it as irrevocable, driven by money and fame and a generation of players who've learned from watching sharks succeed by imposing their will upon the game rather than by allowing it to come to them. It used to be that a team needed a transcendent talent to execute a star system; now, it needs a transcendent talent -- LeBron James or Duncan -- to show that it's permissible to be unselfish.

 

[Richard Wright]

I feel this shyt just playing at the park. nikkas with no handle or shot trying to run iso all game

 

[bangbreh]

most immigrants work harder than ALL 'murricans.
no matter what they're doing