Popular CAC youtuber claims that they created blues, jazz and RnB

[IllmaticDelta]

The difference is Reggae is a post-slavery/modern music where jamaicans looked abroad for influences whereas,

@Bonk

The bassist who played for marley/wailers describing the elements of Reggae



where the vocal harmonies in/of reggae came from




the actual off-beat rhythm that you hear in Reggae



along with Ska, was to be found throughout Jazz, OG R&B from the 1940s/1950s and could even be heard in Blues songs, for example

Jazz and Blues weren't born out of ADOS looking abroad for musical appropriation; bust instead, the African influences that showed up in the Blues/Jazz were not modern, but something that was already in their blood/heritage

what came to be the flavoring of Blues was inherent in the slave stock of ADOS,
they had no need to look to another country/culture to produce those sounds in the way Jamaicans did to produce to reggae






Blues does have roots in Malian/Senegalese/Sahelian etc... Pentatonic scales








but the ADOS Blues inherited that and then expanded on it to create multiple distinct Blues scales

which is why the Blues and Griot African music are similar and different at the same time

 

[Anno Domini]

Literally nobody agreed with him. Everyone in the comments were telling him he was wrong, tons of musicians and people who actually study music told him he was wrong, and he got into a debate on his channel with one of them, and proceeded to get completely cooked by them for an hour and 30 mins and even his own fan base was talking about how much he got destroyed.

 

[Sleepy Floyd]

These weirdos always expose themselves

 

[IllmaticDelta]

LOL. The Empire of Kongo is in West Central Africa. The Kingdom of Kongo converted to Christianity in the 1490s,. The first slave statue in what would become the USA didn't occur until the 1620s. The Kongo was the largest provider of slaves to the Americas in the transatlantic slave trade, especially early on to the USA. Kongo people were known for their rhythmic music which was passed on into the African American music experience.

So the people from Kongo were Christians long before they even came into the Americas. Not only that but African American music is heavily influenced by Islam practiced by the Muslims in West Africa.

That poster clearly isn't aware of any of that. He keeps trying to equate the musical style of Negro Spirituals/Gospel to what he sees as "white" religion (christianity) w/o understanding that the singing style that showed up in ADOS Black Sacred music came from Muslim/Islamic influence + African Rhythmic/Syncopation colorings that informed the performance style

Secondly, he seems to be unaware that the slaves were performing an entirely different body of work with its own characteristics that didn't relate to the White Hymn/white performance style. We know this because it's documented by leaders in the white church going back to the 1700s. In the early 1800s, white leaders in the Methodist Church even had to chastise white members for performing those "songs" (early negro spirituals) that negros were singing in their quarters and also for emulating the negro's bodily exercises (performance style) during worship

 

[3rdWorld]

This is actually a great insight into the mind of the cac being..

They repeat this same stunt whenever they see an opening because they assume Black people have abandoned something.
Thus is the same mindset they employ to try place themselves in Egypt etc.

 

[Rell84shots]

This is their contribution to music

 

[Carl Tethers]

This is their contribution to music

I remember hearing when cacs tried to make the first jazz fake books, some black jazz musicians just gave them the wrong chords to fukk with them too

 

[The Plug]

He was schooled by someone more knowledgeable than him. He's an arrogant cac and he straight up says that he didn't like people "giving black peoploe credit for everything" which is the premise for this debate.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Blues didn’t come from classical European music. Nope. Sorry. Try again

 

[3rdWorld]

Square Dancing is whites contribution to music..fukking hacks