Pre-Election Poll: Bernie Would've Bodied Trump 56-44%

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I honestly think would have won this regardless. People forget to some people Trump's name is still synonymous with wealth and success. Alot of people looked at that and thinks he can translate that into making the country successful. Not to mention the socialist aspect of Bernie's campaign he would have made look like a communist which would have scared off alot of voters. Biden probably would have had a better chance. He really could have taped into that white working class vote. He could have rode that im from scranton pa im one of you straight into the white house.

You're right but Sanders would have responded. He could point out the contradictions of Trump and connect Trump's "success" at the expense of taxpayers providing subsidies for his business

However people liked Bernie despite being a self described democratic socialist

He won independents and republicans in the primary season

His favorability ratings were above 50%
 

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Yeah I said polls were trash before, but they really jumped the shark this past election.
The fact is that Hillary is such a bad candidate, her tiny "lead" was like having a 2 point edge towards the end of the 4th quarter against the Patriots with Brady warming up on the sidelines. Trump was closing strong. We should've known that such a close election with a candidate who can't reach 50% in the polls was bad news for Democrats.

Nearly all of the final polls had Hillary and Trump within the margin of error. We fukked up by thinking that somehow favored Hillary rather than the "change" insurgent. The signs were clear that there's a storm coming and we ignored them cause we couldn't imagine a buffoon like Trump in the Oval Office.
 

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You're right but Sanders would have responded. He could point out the contradictions of Trump and connect Trump's "success" at the expense of taxpayers providing subsidies for his business

However people liked Bernie despite being a self described democratic socialist

He won independents and republicans in the primary season

His favorability ratings were above 50%

Hillary attempted to make that connection and people didn't care. Alot more people like Bernie in the primary because he was running against Hillary. The general would have been a different story. Especially with Bernie catering to the LGBT community and minorities. That was part of the reason those rustbelt voters didn't go for Hillary because they felt ignored. I don't think they would have felt any less ignored with Bernie as the candidate. also could you imagine Trump on the campaign trail talking about socialism and aligning it with communism. He would have had a field day with that and his supporters would have ate it up.
 

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also could you imagine Trump on the campaign trail talking about socialism and aligning it with communism. He would have had a field day with that and his supporters would have ate it up.

Except no one really gives a shyt. The people who wouldn't vote for Bernie because of that, are either rich or wouldn't be voting Dem in the first place.

It has been a mainstream and common charge from the right since 2008. Fox has been calling Obama and others "socialists," "communists," "Third World revolutionaries" and other shyt for 8+ years now. Yet Obama won 2 terms and some Trump voters flipped from Obama to Trump.
 

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In this election it seems to have come down to honest strategy. Trump spent a lot of his time in the rust belt seeking to flip dems to reps. . . It worked.

Who knows what Bernie's strategy would have been. I bet it would have been better than HRC's though. She took a sizeable portion of the electorate for granted. But most democrats do.

Both Sanders and Trump are populists. But Bernie would have beat him. The reason why the dems ran HRC is because she's solidly part of the NWO. The NWO couldn't possibly have 2 anti-NWO candidates running. It's a lose-lose.
 

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Trump was politically savvy enough to know Sanders was his kryptonite.



Trump had this knack for smelling someone's weakness like a shark to blood then going after them. Look at his nicknames...

Low energy Jeb-Accurate. Jeb came off like a big p*ssy with no enthusiasm or vigor.

Lyin Ted-Accurate. Cruz was lying silver-tongued Harvard lawyer pretending to be a blue collar redneck.

Crooked Hillary-Again, accurate. bytch was corrupt.

He was hesisitant to go after Bernie because he felt there was some overlap in their voters.

When he finally went at him, what did he come up with...

Crazy Bernie. :beli: Nothing is crazy about Bernie except for his mad scientist appearance. That would not have stuck with middle of the road nonpartisan voters. Plus side-by-side, Trump is easily the crazier of the two.

America you fukked up.
 

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The polls were useless because people were ashamed to admit they liked Trump and lied about it.
I don't think that's it.

The REAL reason the polls were wrong is because they purposely poll MORE liberals than conservatives.

Guys, remember. The mainstream media doesn't tell you what's really happening. They tell you what they WANT to happen.

So if they want hillary to win. They will tell you she's already winning. GET IT?
 

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This election boiled down to who could energize their base.

All things considered Trump didnt even crush Hillary in that respect, but he energized his base in key places.

Hillarys name being on the ballot was responsibile for 6 million people period staying home that voted in 2012. Thats why she lost. It had nothing really to do with Trump and everyting to do with her. I think any other Republican woulda beat her too.
 

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This election boiled down to who could energize their base.

All things considered Trump didnt even crush Hillary in that respect, but he energized his base in key places.

Hillarys name being on the ballot was responsibile for 6 million people period staying home that voted in 2012. Thats why she lost. It had nothing really to do with Trump and everyting to do with her. I think any other Republican woulda beat her too.
Actually that's not true. There's a possible 7 million more votes left to count from places she's expected to win 2-1 like California. The problem necessarily isn't that she got less votes it's where she got less votes.
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