President of Morehouse College removed from post. What do you expect Trump to do with HBCU's?

[Apollo Creed]

This isn't true, Morehouse is a feeder school to elite grad schools in general. Harvard Law, Harvard Buisiness School, Kennedy school, etc. all have Morehouse well represented every class. Regarding Morehouse competing with MIT, you're right, that was never going to happen. Morehouse is a small liberal arts school. It will never compete with top engineering schools because those institutions depends so much on research. Morehouse does not have a grad school. But it def had its place. Comparing it to GA State is inherently unfair. A State school will always be cheaper...they're heavily subsidized! But Morehouse is not any more expensive than similarly sized private school. I will argue that Morehouse IS more heavily represented in top grad programs than most other similarly sized schools; especially for Black men. Ditto for Rhodes Scholars. The Dual Degree program (which is not just Morehouse, it's the entire AUC) is great as it gives you access to some of the top programs in the country (GA Tech, U mich, Columbia are all a part of the program).

Morehouse ousting Wilson was not the right move. They need to bring stability to the school, which is what Wilson was trying to do. Changing presidents every few years is a HORRIBLE plan for the success of an institution...especially as they try to celebrate their 150th anniversary. Wilson had to make many cuts which rubbed people the wrong way, and failed to get key support needed to allow him to follow through on his vision. You are 100% right regarding aging infrastructure, and that's one thing, specifically Wilson was trying to help, but they cut the cord before he could follow through. People cite dwindling enrollment as a bad thing, but to me, it's a good thing. Morehouse needs to downsize and become more selective on who they admit.

Yeah like it became the IT place to be for gay dudes who wanted to have a fashion show, and then kids who were terrible academically but had a family that wanted to see them as "Morehouse men"

 

[The Fire]

You can't be black if you think Morehouse is some all male prison.

I've never been to Atlanta how would I know

 

[MustafaSTL]

Wait. This ain't a co ed school? No females to look and higher tuition?

You have to be a cac. No way you're black and don't know about Morehouse.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I've never been to Atlanta how would I know

Morehouse has a significant place in American history for black people.

 

[Warren Moon]

This isn't true, Morehouse is a feeder school to elite grad schools in general. Harvard Law, Harvard Buisiness School, Kennedy school, etc. all have Morehouse well represented every class. Regarding Morehouse competing with MIT, you're right, that was never going to happen. Morehouse is a small liberal arts school. It will never compete with top engineering schools because those institutions depends so much on research. Morehouse does not have a grad school. But it def had its place. Comparing it to GA State is inherently unfair. A State school will always be cheaper...they're heavily subsidized! But Morehouse is not any more expensive than similarly sized private school. I will argue that Morehouse IS more heavily represented in top grad programs than most other similarly sized schools; especially for Black men. Ditto for Rhodes Scholars. The Dual Degree program (which is not just Morehouse, it's the entire AUC) is great as it gives you access to some of the top programs in the country (GA Tech, U mich, Columbia are all a part of the program).

Morehouse ousting Wilson was not the right move. They need to bring stability to the school, which is what Wilson was trying to do. Changing presidents every few years is a HORRIBLE plan for the success of an institution...especially as they try to celebrate their 150th anniversary. Wilson had to make many cuts which rubbed people the wrong way, and failed to get key support needed to allow him to follow through on his vision. You are 100% right regarding aging infrastructure, and that's one thing, specifically Wilson was trying to help, but they cut the cord before he could follow through. People cite dwindling enrollment as a bad thing, but to me, it's a good thing. Morehouse needs to downsize and become more selective on who they admit.

This is slowly going away. Morehouse has always been too heavy in regards to being in 15% of guys who on they shyt. As that percentage goes down year over year and the accept even lower quality students at the bottom.

The quality and prestige of the top kids goes away. I've heard this from morehouse men's mouth. Alums that openly are pissed they have to seriously reconsider sending their sons there.

On top of that the top black kids are getting poached with free money. These elite white schools have quotas 10-20 high achieveing blacks they can take easily. 90% of morehouse kids need aid. It's a lot of moving parts that's causing this

 

[Apollo Creed]

This is slowly going away. Morehouse has always been too heavy in regards to being in 15% of guys who on they shyt. As that percentage goes down year over year and the accept even lower quality students at the bottom.

The quality and prestige of the top kids goes away. I've heard this from morehouse men's mouth. Alums that openly are pissed they have to seriously reconsider sending their sons there.

On top of that the top black kids are getting poached with free money. These elite white schools have quotas 10-20 high achieveing blacks they can take easily. 90% of morehouse kids need aid. It's a lot of moving parts that's causing this

Main reason I`m for consolidation and re purposing the bottom tier HBCUs.

 

[EndDomination]

This isn't true, Morehouse is a feeder school to elite grad schools in general. Harvard Law, Harvard Buisiness School, Kennedy school, etc. all have Morehouse well represented every class. Regarding Morehouse competing with MIT, you're right, that was never going to happen. Morehouse is a small liberal arts school. It will never compete with top engineering schools because those institutions depends so much on research. Morehouse does not have a grad school. But it def had its place. Comparing it to GA State is inherently unfair. A State school will always be cheaper...they're heavily subsidized! But Morehouse is not any more expensive than similarly sized private school. I will argue that Morehouse IS more heavily represented in top grad programs than most other similarly sized schools; especially for Black men. Ditto for Rhodes Scholars. The Dual Degree program (which is not just Morehouse, it's the entire AUC) is great as it gives you access to some of the top programs in the country (GA Tech, U mich, Columbia are all a part of the program).

Morehouse ousting Wilson was not the right move. They need to bring stability to the school, which is what Wilson was trying to do. Changing presidents every few years is a HORRIBLE plan for the success of an institution...especially as they try to celebrate their 150th anniversary. Wilson had to make many cuts which rubbed people the wrong way, and failed to get key support needed to allow him to follow through on his vision. You are 100% right regarding aging infrastructure, and that's one thing, specifically Wilson was trying to help, but they cut the cord before he could follow through. People cite dwindling enrollment as a bad thing, but to me, it's a good thing. Morehouse needs to downsize and become more selective on who they admit.

The thing is Morehouse isn't all that selective, the dwindling enrollment isn't because they're getting better students, it's because the better students are taking that full ride to GeorgiaTech, UofAlabama, Dartmouth, etc

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

This is slowly going away. Morehouse has always been too heavy in regards to being in 15% of guys who on they shyt. As that percentage goes down year over year and the accept even lower quality students at the bottom.

The quality and prestige of the top kids goes away. I've heard this from morehouse men's mouth. Alums that openly are pissed they have to seriously reconsider sending their sons there.
It'll go away if things don't change but it hasn't gone away. I can attest to that now. being in the Cambridge area. That's why this is such an important time for Morehouse, and changing presidents every few years is gonna leave them further below water before they can get their shyt together.

On top of that the top black kids are getting poached with free money. These elite white schools have quotas 10-20 high achieveing blacks they can take easily. 90% of morehouse kids need aid. It's a lot of moving parts that's causing this

Absolutely. I can't think of a real good way to compete with this. A kid faced with a full ride to Harvard ain't gonna choose Morehouse, and you can't blame them for it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

The thing is Morehouse isn't all that selective, the dwindling enrollment isn't because they're getting better students, it's because the better students are taking that full ride to GeorgiaTech, UofAlabama, Dartmouth, etc

Like I said in my other thread, we are at the point where it literally makes no sense to go to Morehouse when you can go across the street to Tech or GA State for 1/3rd the price and have access to more resources. And from a GA State perspective, they have more black students enrolled than the entire AUC combined so you won't really have the "I want to be around black folks" argument to use either.

HBCUs excel because they have a family oriented environment where students are just a random number, HBCUs need to capitalize on this, but still we have WAY to many HBCUs where we end up spreading ourselves thin trying to support each and every one of them.

 

[Colin X]

If they drop below 2000 enrolled, that'll be pretty bad.

Morehouse is way too expensive when Georgia State is up the street at a fraction of the cost.

How is enrollment so low if their acceptance rate is so high?


Nobody wanna go to Morehouse?

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

The thing is Morehouse isn't all that selective, the dwindling enrollment isn't because they're getting better students, it's because the better students are taking that full ride to GeorgiaTech, UofAlabama, Dartmouth, etc

No doubt. Not just those getting full rides, but those who choose the cheaper public school. No surprise the rising costs of education is hitting Black schools the hardest.

 

[Apollo Creed]

How is enrollment so low if their acceptance rate is so high?


Nobody wanna go to Morehouse?

Nobody wants to go. The Top students can get into Emory, Tech, UGA which are cheaper (maybe not emory, but they have means to give students full rides) and have more resources. The Mid tier students can get into GA State, Kennesaw which are cheaper and have more resources, and the kids who want the HBCU experience can go to Savannah State, Albany State, and Fort Valley which are all much cheaper, and have just as good resources since they are public schools.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I went to a public HBCU and by my sophomore yr I was going to school free and getting refunds because I got so many grants. Those same grands and financial aid wouldnt make a dent in the annual Morehouse tuition costs.

 

[Colin X]

And as far as morehouse and Clark Atlanta, it's no secret they've been going through some things financially. The students here know this. The AC stopped working during midterms last semester. And yes they made it mandatory to stay on campus till your
Junior year and have a a meal plan all four years. (For no reason other than to get more $$)

It's a sad situation all around bc it's just too expensive.

And y'all really question some black kids choose PWIs

 

[Dark Horse]

This isn't true, Morehouse is a feeder school to elite grad schools in general. Harvard Law, Harvard Buisiness School, Kennedy school, etc. all have Morehouse well represented every class.

Morehouse ousting Wilson was not the right move. They need to bring stability to the school, which is what Wilson was trying to do. Changing presidents every few years is a HORRIBLE plan for the success of an institution...especially as they try to celebrate their 150th anniversary. Wilson had to make many cuts which rubbed people the wrong way, and failed to get key support needed to allow him to follow through on his vision. You are 100% right regarding aging infrastructure, and that's one thing, specifically Wilson was trying to help, but they cut the cord before he could follow through. People cite dwindling enrollment as a bad thing, but to me, it's a good thing. Morehouse needs to downsize and become more selective on who they admit.

pretty much what I said. Good feeder...to go on and do great things elsewhere. But honestly Morehouse (nowadays) benefits more from attracting middle-to-upper class students from stable backgrounds and families that are educated themselves versus an alum getting anywhere because of anything Morehouse did. Those students were probably going to excel anywhere else, anyways.

But let's be honest, unless you're enamored with getting the HBCU experience, as an engineer, why enroll in a dual degree program if you are able to gain admission to the engineering school from the beginning? The whole benefit behind the dual degree was making yourself stand out as having two (undergrad) degrees at a time when you could get a job with only one. Well in today's economy, with graduate degrees pretty much being the minimum required for any kind of advancement in most fields, the benefit of two undergrad degrees goes away.

Wilson always found himself in the midst of financial problems, alienated alumni, and created high turnover within faculty. The decline of Morehouse academically has been a long time coming, far predating him, but the actual fall in rankings occurred under his watch. Furthermore he disbanded scholarship opportunities and implemented the asinine policy of students having to stay on campus until their senior year (guaranteeing them an additional $30k per student). They made the right choice. You don't get to execute a vision and marginalize everyone else along the way...