Prime D Rose Vs. Prime Steph Curry Vs. Prime Westbrook

[CantStop]

I hate you fukking stat geeks man.

Rose ALWAYS destroyed the elite PGs.

"Bu bu but Russ had 22 ppg"

Russ was guarded by the 2nd best perimeter defender every game while he got to play with Durant.

Rose was legit getting tripled teamed.

 

[CHICAGO]

When Westbrook missed a lot of the season recovering from surgery, KD won MVP and the Thunder won 59 games.

WON 60 GAMES WITH RUSS PLAYING 82
WON 59 GAMES THE NEXT SEASON
WITH RUSS PLAYING 46





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[FlyRy]

You Rose and Iverson stans gotta stop

 

[CantStop]

WON 60 GAMES WITH RUSS PLAYING 82
WON 59 GAMES THE NEXT SEASON
WITH RUSS PLAYING 46





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Rose made players better.

Oladipo about to win MIP

Sabonis went from "bust" to great role player

Paul George went from guaranteed All star to injury replacement

Melo having his woat year

Steven Adams gotta let Russ steal rebounds so he can get fed on offense

 

[pimpineasy]

Curry







Rose

























Westbrook

This is the correct answer.
Nikkas debating just to debate .
Only curry spaces the floor to the point where defenses look silly.
Prime rose was amazing . Just so many ways to score.
Westbrook is after .
None of them are scrubs. All are franchise players but this is the order

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Curry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

drose was an athletic anomaly

an mvp before he even reached his peak

& never surrounded by a top tier franchise/team

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An athletic anomaly with a poor outside shot, average passing skills, and tunnel vision. How you gonna call yourself an all-time great PG when you aren't great in any of the most essential pg skills? And did he have a defining playoff game past the first round? (Maybe that blowout win against the Hawks in the 2nd round?)

Why don't you think he had reached his peak? He had plenty of time to improve his three and never did, he had plenty of time to become a better passer and never did. Those are both skills he could have developed even with the injuries, but he chose to rely on his athleticism instead. How would his "peak" have looked any different than what he already showed?

The 2011 Bulls were the perfect situation for DRose to get shine - he was asked to focus on all the things he did best with teammates/coaching who minimized his weaknesses, and they won enough games that it provided the necessary excuse for a league desperate to manufacture a feel-good story rather than give Bron another MVP.


Russ and Rose are both elite players with serious weaknesses who have never been able to carry their team when it mattered. In fact, they have the same damn weaknesses - they never developed their outside shot, they don't make the best decisions, and their commitment to defense is sketchy. They aren't in Curry's league.

 

[beenz]

Easily rose. Curry was an allstar before kerrs system

Rose youngest mvp ever playing with bogawd and deng as his shooters. Imagine rose with klay and barnes then klay and kd

also, rose when he was like 21/22/23 was routinely busting the elite PG's asses. I'm talkin d-wil, wall, lowry, cp3, westbrook, and curry.

 

[CHICAGO]

ISNT CURRY OLDER THAN ROSE?




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[Project Pooch]

Rose is by far the worst, Curry is easily the best

 

[Project Pooch]

Curry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>





An athletic anomaly with a poor outside shot, average passing skills, and tunnel vision. How you gonna call yourself an all-time great PG when you aren't great in any of the most essential pg skills? And did he have a defining playoff game past the first round? (Maybe that blowout win against the Hawks in the 2nd round?)

Why don't you think he had reached his peak? He had plenty of time to improve his three and never did, he had plenty of time to become a better passer and never did. Those are both skills he could have developed even with the injuries, but he chose to rely on his athleticism instead. How would his "peak" have looked any different than what he already showed?

The 2011 Bulls were the perfect situation for DRose to get shine - he was asked to focus on all the things he did best with teammates/coaching who minimized his weaknesses, and they won enough games that it provided the necessary excuse for a league desperate to manufacture a feel-good story rather than give Bron another MVP.


Russ and Rose are both elite players with serious weaknesses who have never been able to carry their team when it mattered. In fact, they have the same damn weaknesses - they never developed their outside shot, they don't make the best decisions, and their commitment to defense is sketchy. They aren't in Curry's league.

Curry is much better than either of those two guys

 

[JayGatsby]

Curry.....Westbrook....Rose

Rose's prime was like 2 years . He has like 2 seasons over 20ppg

 

[Professor Emeritus]

also, rose when he was like 21/22/23 was routinely busting the elite PG's asses. I'm talkin d-wil, wall, lowry, cp3, westbrook, and curry.

Rose played Curry five times in 2009-2011 (and never again until 2014)

12-11-2009
Curry: 6 points on 3-9 shooting
Rose: 15 points on 7-22 shooting, won

1-18-2010
Curry: 26 points on 9-18 shooting (5 threes)
Rose: 19 points on 7-19 shooting, lost

11-11-2010
Curry: 17 points on 7-18 shooting (2 threes)
Rose: 22 points on 10-17 shooting, won

2-5-2011
Curry: 23 points on 9-15 shooting (2 threes)
Rose: 14 points on 6-15 shooting, lost

12-26-2011
Curry: 21 points on 7-12 shooting
Rose: 13 points on 4-17 shooting, lost


Small sample size, but Rose sure wasn't busting Curry's ass routinely. And Rose had the better roster too.

And you don't want to see what the rest of the stat sheet looked like.


The CP3 record was similar - Bulls won all five games cause the Pelicans sucked, but D-Rose only averaged 17.6ppg on 40% shooting against CP3.

I don't think Lowry or Wall were elite back then - Wall wasn't even in the NBA until the 10/11 season at the end of the time frame you mentioned, and Lowry wasn't a starter until that season and didn't really blow up until 2014. He did get at Deron some, and he and Westbrook (rookie in 2009/10) took turns schooling each other.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

I’d take Westbrook over curry if he just didn’t shoot too much. He can do it all. Curry nice but his team is so damn good tho

 

[the next guy]

He was putting up 24/9 on 47/42% with Klay and David Lee as his top two teammates.

David Lee was nowhere near a bum though.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

How many rookies and sophomores are actually taking their teams to the playoffs? Even LeBron didn't make the playoffs his first 2 years. Plus Rose had a better roster and played in a weaker conference.

Mitchell n simmons looking like they will