Protestors protest in the middle of highway…guy on parole begs them to move so he doesn’t get arrested for missing work….they refuse

[Rusty$hackleford]

Dumbass didn't wanna miss work so he wouldn't get locked up then chooses to assault the protesters. Yeah smart call there dummy

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

I'm sorry, what is the point of your argument? That disruption in protests doesn't work?

I'm tired of you idiots placing the burden on everyone else. Prove to me that disruption in protest in ineffective, either through a case study or by compiling the most notable protests and determining if the least disruptive ones were the most effective. There, go do that then get back to me because you are arguing against one the most fundamental and basic principles of protest. I'm not sure why anyone should take you seriously at this point, put in some work then get back to this.

Protests that target the general public are unpopular, as is shown by popular and political backlash to highway blockades.

Tatgeted protests like Occupy Wallstreet were much more popular. As the breh said, what did the CHAZ to do help Black people? All that came from that was closed businesses and at least two murders of young Black men.

You want to protest climate change? Occupy a Chevron refinery. Blockade the offloading of an oil tanker. Camp in front of the homes of politicians and oil lobbyists. That goes after the big fish. John Q Public is just trying to go about his day. Delaying his obligations makes him mad at YOU, not the people you're protesting against. YOU are ruining his day, not the polluters.

 

[Reflected]

Protests that target the general public are unpopular, as is shown by popular and political backlash.

Tatgeted protests like Occupy Wallstreet were much more popular. As the breh said, what did the CHAZ to do help Black people? All that came from that was closwd businesses and at least two murders of young Black men.

You want to protest climate change? Occupy a Chevron refinery. Blockade the offloading of an oil tanker. Camp in front of the homes of politicians and oil lobbyists. That goes after the big fish. John Q Public is just trying to go about his day. Delaying his obligations males him mad at YOU, not the people you're protesting against. YOU are ruining hia day, not the polluters.

The civil rights protests* were unpopular. And I already gave my reasoning for why camping outside of private entities and politicians homes are ineffective.

Protests Seen as Harming Civil Rights Movement in the '60s

Martin Luther King Jr. advocated nonviolent tactics to advance civil rights. But in the early 1960s, Americans viewed these tactics differently.

news.gallup.com

 

[bnew]

It's not how does blocking a road help your cause?

Why not inconvenience the people who make these laws.

In fact I would purposely be against any cause of the people protesting just out of spite for passing me off.

it's a multi-prong approach and you haven't suggested anything they haven't already done. by inconveniencing you, they are in fact inconveniencing politicians who have to constantly address the interruptions.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

The civil rights protests* were unpopular. And I already gave my reasoning for why camping outside of private entities and politicians homes are ineffective.

Protests Seen as Harming Civil Rights Movement in the '60s

Martin Luther King Jr. advocated nonviolent tactics to advance civil rights. But in the early 1960s, Americans viewed these tactics differently.

news.gallup.com

Stop comparing this to the CRM. It's insulting.

General disruption made sense there, as the general (white) public was violating the rights of Black people.

 

[OsO]

Lol of course TLR is here to say protesting is bad. Y’all love this fukking right wing media slop

That’s the fukking point you stupid shyt. That’s literally the kind of activism that has worked for years. Stop being a dunce

Protest isn't supposed to be convenient for people, if they were standing on the side of the road, no one would care. I would say this specific instance is a bad look though.

lol Bro, the civil rights movement? How do you think they protested? It was much more in your face and disruptive than this, they shut down entire buildings, roads, etc. Took beatings in the process too. If anything, King's approach to organized disruption should be the blueprint for all of these movements. Historically, the most successful movements have been the most disruptive. No one will hear you if you stand on the side of the road.

Right. People have no knowledge of history, talking about how inconvenient protests don't work. Like we wouldn't be able to do half the shyt we do now if someone hadn't inconvenienced others. No one pays attention to the convenient protest on the side of the road. I'm sure there are dozens of stories of people inconvenienced by the civil rights movement.

Negroes would still being drinking piss colored water if our ancestors took this approach

That’s exactly the point, make enough people uncomfortable that they vote for a politician that’ll do something.

Nothing outside of violence will coerce an elected politician because they’re already lining their pockets.

protesting by blocking traffic has been a form of protest all over the world for thousands of just causes.

Protests HAVE to be strategic. Yes you can cause disruption, but who or what is this protest disrupting exactly? Are the people being disrupted aware of the issue at hand? Are they informed of the important information regarding the issue? Are they aware what action they can take? How do the protesters know they're not disrupting a bunch of people who agree with their stance and are already voting in the desired manner? What is the direct positive impact made from this protest? What is the follow up from this protest?

They don't have the answers and neither do you. Which is why people are saying, they're just being disruptive with no strategy. And disruptive with no strategy is not a good strategy.

Strategic disruption can and has been useful as you all have pointed out, but this isn't that. You're actually doing yourself a disservice by comparing this act to other successful acts of social activism in the past.

by inconveniencing you, they are in fact inconveniencing politicians who have to constantly address the interruptions.

Simply not true breh. Politicians will not lose sleep over this AT ALL.

 

[Reflected]

Stop comparing this to the CRM. It's insulting.

I can compare it to suffrage then, it literally doesn't matter because the logic holds the same, you simply exchange the trait value. Your appeal to emotion here is pathetic, as your rhetoric would only harm future movements.

Civil Disobedience (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

plato.stanford.edu

I'm ending this here, the academic or leading philosophical approach on protest is clear, disruption or formally civil disobedience is a necessary factor of protest, else it is no different than sitting on this forum or in your room and protesting. The effectiveness of different types of protests, from CHAZ or Occupy Wall Street, was never argued by me, I even said the protest in the OP was likely ineffective, because they don't have the manpower or proper direction. But this idea that going to the companies, when they have already used the law, as they are justified to do so is an effective form of protest is silly. And standing outside the homes of politicians who are beholden to constituents is also silly, you go to the constituents, they are the ones that vote them in.

 

[BaggerofTea]

So these people are ready to die over climate.. because I would had been Suge Knight on they ass in front of my truck

One of the dumbest post I have seen here over the past 6 months

 

[BaggerofTea]

Stop comparing this to the CRM. It's insulting.

General disruption made sense there, as the general (white) public was violating the rights of Black people.

You do realize the climate effects every aspect of your fukking life

 

[Low End Derrick]

Sitting in the streets to protest the same racial injustice that has been happening to us for hundreds of years is not the same as sitting in the streets because your feelings are hurt that politicians aren't doing enough for climate change.

fukk your feelings and take your punk ass to a coal mine or some shyt.

Perfect example right here of nominative determinism. @Worthless Losers like you won't be wanted in the trenches.

How many black men have died in the hands of white supremacist and police? How many have been beaten by the police? How many have been unfairly sentenced by a white justice system? How many innocent black men in jail? How many have been treated like shyt in jail? You talking 2, 3 centuries of this shyt.


Now compare that to climate change. The weight ain't the same. Like Kiss said you gotta get the scale they weigh whales with for the shyt we been through compared to some small ass climate change inaction.

And for the record, I believe the science. I'm just not down with how these stupid white liberals act about it.

More black people will die due to the effects of climate change than at the hands of any white man if no action is taken. Weigh that, nygguh.

 

[Reflected]

Protests HAVE to be strategic. Yes you can cause disruption, but who or what is this protest disrupting exactly? Are the people being disrupted aware of the issue at hand? Are they informed of the important information regarding the issue? Are they aware what action they can take? How do the protesters know they're not disrupting a bunch of people who agree with their stance and are already voting in the desired manner? What is the direct positive impact made from this protest? What is the follow up from this protest?

They don't have the answers and neither do you. Which is why people are saying, they're just being disruptive with no strategy. And disruptive with no strategy is not a good strategy.

Strategic disruption can and has been useful as you all have pointed out, but this isn't that. You're actually doing yourself a disservice by comparing this act to other successful acts of social activism in the past.



Simply not true breh. Politicians will not lose sleep over this AT ALL.

You should read further into the thread, I'm talking about the nature of protest in general, and I already gave my thoughts on the specific protest in the OP and its effectiveness. Who in their right mind would argue that any form of protest that is disruptive is effective? If that were the case, I could go stand outside on the road right now and get what I want.

Point is, and has only ever been, is that protests aren't supposed to be convenient for people. Disruption is a necessary factor, how much, or how it's done is an entirely different argument.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Perfect example right here of nominative determinism. @Worthless Losers like you won't be wanted in the trenches.



More black people will die due to the effects of climate change than at the hands of any white man if no action is taken. Weigh that, nygguh

I'm fully aware of the negative climate effects on black people. And no, it is not as big of a threat as white supremacy has been to black life for centuries.

I also think the whole omg the world is going to end and we're all going to die if we don't do something about climate change now is liberal fear mongering and exaggeration to an extent.

Like I said, I believe in the science. And its important for it to be addressed. But climate change is not something to sit in the street to protest about. It ain't on the same scale as our continued injustice and it won't be in the near future. This is white liberals being over dramatic like they tend to be sometimes.

Driver: What you in the middle of the street for i gotta get to work?

White liberal a$$hole: To protest climate change because our elected officials ain't doing enough to address it. I'M NOT MOVING.

Driver: Get your bytch ass out the way.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Please fix the climate....
I remember seeing starving people commercials long ago...

now I am seeing starving and abused dogs/cats on cnn commercials
I change channel
sad music, sad animals

dont let it be you humans on tv in a few years begging for water and bread

 

[Nero Christ]

posters on here constantly complaining about immigration when climate change will cause mass migration. climate change will have far reaching consequences that no will be able to escape if people don't take collective action to lower harmful emissions.

breh don't even bother...some of these posters probably need help to tie their shoes...would probably drop dead if they had to breathe manually

 

[50CentStan]

Climate change weirdos are the WOAT