Nick Barnes
All Star
If your guys ps3/Xbox and your moms fell into a lake and could only save one I bet 90% of you would save your consoles first.
We just got Fable 3
Starting July 1st Halo 3 and asscreed 2
dedicated servers is a good service they cna sell anyday. if i'mma pay for online at least make it worth it..
I don't play online with consoles for the most part. Is it a negative that Sony is requiring a subscription to play? Sure I'll concede to that, but its not like Microsoft took away their subscription model either so I am not sure how you are trying to spin this into a win for the xbox one. This just means you fools were paying for this for 10+ years. What's worse about it all for you guys? Sony implemented it, but are not facing any heat because of the dumbass decisions microsoft has made these past few months has overshadowed anything wrong Sony can do. THAT'S HOW BIG of a fukkUP VERY RESTRICTIVE DRM is. Microsoft should have known better after EA's DISASTROUS SimCity launch not too long ago.I'm assuming you're "ok" with paying for online behind a paywall now when just 3 months ago you swore you'd never pay a dime for some shyt like. In fact YOU said you'd skip this gen entirely if it happened. so what's the verdict![]()



I don't play online with consoles for the most part. Is it a negative that Sony is requiring a subscription to play? Sure I'll concede to that, but its not like Microsoft took away their subscription model either so I am not sure how you are trying to spin this into a win for the xbox one. This just means you fools were paying for this for 10+ years. What's worse about it all for you guys? Sony implemented it, but are not facing any heat because of the dumbass decisions microsoft has made these past few months has overshadowed anything wrong Sony can do. THAT'S HOW BIG of a fukkUP VERY RESTRICTIVE DRM is. Microsoft should have known better after EA's DISASTROUS SimCity launch not too long ago.
Also, from what I am reading you don't NEED PS+ to access netflix, hulu, and other services you pay for OUTSIDE of these consoles. The spin you are trying to put on this is insane. You guys really have no leg to stand on at this point and are grasping at the smallest things you possibly can...a negative for the PS4 that doesn't even give the xbox one an advantage. The gaming community has spoken...you guys lost. No amount of spin is going to change that.
Luckily for me I own a gaming PC, I'll play online there (for free) if I decide to.
dog...there is no spin. That was all facts. NEITHER should be charging for online MULTI. You guys really need to calm down because I am sure Microsoft will release something on Monday morning about lifting all the aggressive DRM. This issue will not go away and having worked PR for a large corporation I KNOW how these things goLOL at this page full of spin to admit you're a brainless bias mod who want even man up and stand with his own views. you ought to have your mod powers removed for a bullshyt spin like this. Paying for Peer 2 peer gaming is "ok" now becuase it's the Lesser of two evils at least stand with what you believe in fakkit.
it's gonna be a long summer for those losers 
I don't play online with consoles for the most part. Is it a negative that Sony is requiring a subscription to play? Sure I'll concede to that, but its not like Microsoft took away their subscription model either so I am not sure how you are trying to spin this into a win for the xbox one. This just means you fools were paying for this for 10+ years. What's worse about it all for you guys? Sony implemented it, but are not facing any heat because of the dumbass decisions microsoft has made these past few months has overshadowed anything wrong Sony can do. THAT'S HOW BIG of a fukkUP VERY RESTRICTIVE DRM is. Microsoft should have known better after EA's DISASTROUS SimCity launch not too long ago.
Also, from what I am reading you don't NEED PS+ to access netflix, hulu, and other services you pay for OUTSIDE of these consoles. The spin you are trying to put on this is insane. You guys really have no leg to stand on at this point and are grasping at the smallest things you possibly can...a negative for the PS4 that doesn't even give the xbox one an advantage. The gaming community has spoken...you guys lost. No amount of spin is going to change that.
Luckily for me I own a gaming PC, I'll play online there (for free) if I decide to.
As a neutral that owns a 360 and a PS3 (bought 360 at launch) i've come to the conclusion that PS4 is the obvious must buy for me.While I don't borrow games or usually buy used games the fact that XB1 won't even give me the option of doing so is bullshyt.How tf a nikka gonna tell me what I can or can't do with something I own?I already have a live subscription so paying for PS Plus in the future doesn't faze me one bit.
I disagree. No other device forces you through a pay wall to pay for services you pay for OUTSIDE of their platform outside of XBOX Live. There will be a small percentage of the XBOX One crowd that won't game much at all so they have to subscribe to xbox live just so they can watch Netflix? Do you realize how silly and ridiculous that is? They are targeting that casual group who is not aware of all the little details and are forcing them to pay a fee each month...when they don't have to on AppleTV, Roku, or dozens of other streamers out there.Liquid... I hear what you saying...but now that Sony charges to play online...as a gamer...IT DOESNT MATTER IF U CAN STILL PLAY Netflix..hulu. Etc...without PS+. If you are getting either one of these consoles for gaming...you are going to pay for online to play online...period.
Netflix will be there for both when you pay to play online. Nobody in 2013 is buying a Xbox one or ps4 just to play offline and play Netflix. What HDTV that comes out in the past 3-4 years don't have access to Netflix and such? Who would pay 500 and 400 and NOT play online.
Its a small + for PS+ in a rare case....but if that's a "+"....its a + that offers extra media services such as fantasy interactive sports with live TV...Skype..Skype while playing..fast switching...TV guide...etc.
I'm leaning towards ps4 as of RIGHT NOW based on game franchises and hardware.....but I'm paying for online with either one...and in that sense...Xbox live actually offers the better features for what you are paying. They have a lot of the same features but Xbox one goes the extra route with its new media features...that's not even arguable.
The game deals was a + on Sony side last gen but now Microsoft offers 2 games a month and BEEN offering game deals...so now it really does seem like you might be paying pretty much the same for the lesser of features on the Sony side.
That's why I'm struggling with which one I'm going to buy first. The best games are multiplat from what I can tell. I'm not as hyped for titan as many are...watchdogs...battlefield..and that final fantasy game are the 3 joints that caught my eye.
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Liquid... I hear what you saying...but now that Sony charges to play online...as a gamer...IT DOESNT MATTER IF U CAN STILL PLAY Netflix..hulu. Etc...without PS+. If you are getting either one of these consoles for gaming...you are going to pay for online to play online...period.
Netflix will be there for both when you pay to play online. Nobody in 2013 is buying a Xbox one or ps4 just to play offline and play Netflix.

I'm not feeling the paying for online stuff but then again I already have 2yrs of ps plus
