"Pusha T is not a top 50 rapper of all-time" - Jim Jones

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Act like clipse ain’t ain’t push the Bape wear

Act like clipse ain’t help Neptune’s become legends

Act like push ain’t influence weezy and drake

Act like Story Of Addidon don’t exist.

Then again Jim wants to run back a versus with the lox so it shows me how delusional he is.
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Neptunes are legends with or without The Clipse. However, The Clipse are not legends without The Neptunes.

Personally, I feel like people, especially in here inflate Push. He's great, but I don't look at him as elite. Same with Clipse as a duo. I remember someone tried to say they would be competitive in a Verzuz without OutKast. That's actually laughable even thinking back on it. I remember when people thought it was crazy that there were people who didn't know who Pusha was during the Drake beef.
 

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jeezy, gucci, ross...master p
More people associate Ross with "luxury rap" at this point. Gucci had "Bricks" but for the most part known for talking other street shyt like kicking doors in and starting the smoking on dead OPPS shyt in a way...

All that being said, I would still be willing to give you them two, but Master P?? Nah lol. He gave us legit classic SONGS but most of his music was filler lol
 

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I remember quotables from Tru Life epic rant on Jim better than actual quotables from Jim's rapping career.

Dude is a glorified Cam hype man. Who wears girl belts. While Pusha is not a top 50, I'd be scared to hear Jim's top 50 :huhldup:
He'd probably have Un Kasa in top 50
 

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More people associate Ross with "luxury rap" at this point. Gucci had "Bricks" but for the most part known for talking other street shyt like kicking doors in and starting the smoking on dead OPPS shyt in a way...

All that being said, I would still be willing to give you them two, but Master P?? Nah lol. He gave us legit classic SONGS but most of his music was filler lol
p was always talking about flippin coke to crack early on...ghetto d is probably the first song that always pops into my head when i think about him, even before make em say ugh
 

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Jay
BIG
Pac
Nas
Big Pun
Drake
Snoop
Rakim
LL
Scarface

T.I.
Mase
Cam’ron
Kool G Rap
Chuck D
Kane
Andre 3000
Wayne
Kanye
Method Man
Redman

Jeezy
Rick Ross
Too Short
Common
Eminem
Cube
Dre
Jadakiss
DMX
KRS-1

Bun B
Nicki
Ludacris
Nelly
Kendrick
J Cole
Queen Latifah
Mos Def
Gucci Mane
Busta Rhymes

Q-Tip
Black Thought
Ghostface
Raekwon
50 Cent
Missy
Prodigy
AZ
Future
E-40

This is no order, but that’s 50 greater than Pusha T. I will admit 45-50 gets a little dicey and he may be able to fit if it’s someone’s preference.

Then you have guys like Fabolous who are ahead of him as well
 

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More people associate Ross with "luxury rap" at this point. Gucci had "Bricks" but for the most part known for talking other street shyt like kicking doors in and starting the smoking on dead OPPS shyt in a way...

All that being said, I would still be willing to give you them two, but Master P?? Nah lol. He gave us legit classic SONGS but most of his music was filler lol

T.I. definitely belongs in that conversation especially if we putting P in that convo.
 

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Neptunes are legends with or without The Clipse. However, The Clipse are not legends without The Neptunes.

Personally, I feel like people, especially in here inflate Push. He's great, but I don't look at him as elite. Same with Clipse as a duo. I remember someone tried to say they would be competitive in a Verzuz without OutKast. That's actually laughable even thinking back on it. I remember when people thought it was crazy that there were people who didn't know who Pusha was during the Drake beef.
You know how Neptunes came up right and the history with clipse and kelis and the virginia scene right ?

They been had beats but most of them were flashy ; Mase looking at me and the joints they did for Nore. Chad and Pharell doing joints with The Clipse revealed a different layer of versatility.
 

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You know how Neptunes came up right and the history with clipse and kelis and the virginia scene right ?

They been had beats but most of them were flashy ; Mase looking at me and the joints they did for Nore. Chad and Pharell doing joints with The Clipse revealed a different layer of versatility.

It may have revealed a different layer of versatility, but they are still legends if they never produced a Clipse record.
 
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