HE DOESNT HAVE ANY ALL TIME GREAT SONGS.
IF THEY MAKE A LIST
OF 500 GREATEST HIP HOP SONGS
PUSHA T WONT MAKE THE LIST 1 TIME.
The drake diss gives him a spot.
"Pusha T is not a top 50 rapper of all-time" - Jim Jones
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The drake diss gives him a spot.
THATS NOT A SONG.
HES NOT EVEN RAPPING
OVER AN ORIGINAL TRACK.
BACK TO BACK MEEK MILL DISS
FROM DRAKE
WAS AN ACTUAL SONG.
The goalpost moving
couldn't be that its a good song or he has a following, no never that
Pusha has a bunch of solo songs with millions of views.
The goalpost moving
couldn't be that its a good song or he has a following, no never that
Pusha has a bunch of solo songs with millions of views.
NOT A BUNCH OF SONGSWITH 14 MILLION VIEWS IN
A YR AND A HALF NOR ANYTHING
CLOSE TO IT....
THATS NOT A SONG.
HES NOT EVEN RAPPING
OVER AN ORIGINAL TRACK.
BACK TO BACK FROM DRAKE
WAS AN ACTUAL SONG.
The top 20 rappers are the ones with the hit songs. After that it’s the guys that have bars and songs that are limited like pusha.
THATS NOT A SONG.
HES NOT EVEN RAPPING
OVER AN ORIGINAL TRACK.
BACK TO BACK FROM DRAKE
WAS AN ACTUAL SONG.
The top 20 rappers are the ones with the hit songs. After that it’s the guys that have bars and songs that are limited like pusha.
WITH 14 MILLION VIEWS IN
A YR AND A HALF NOR ANYTHING
CLOSE TO IT....
so whats the litmus test for relevancy here
1.4 million views, over 7.5 months. can not have a feature with a artist who sells more than them...sells out 48% of their concerts in the continental us...
like I said I know how this coli shyt works, its rare anyone concedes anything they'll just keep adding on bullshyt so they can be "right"
when this is completely opinion no matter what stance you take.
BUSTA, DMX, GHOSTFACE, COMMON,T.I. ECT?
nikka DID YOU EVEN READ THE LIST?
EVEN JADAKISS HAS 2 ALL TIME
GREAT HIP HOP SONGS WITH
"WE GON MAKE IT" & "WHY"
PUSHA T DOESNT BELONG.
so whats the litmus test for relevancy here
1.4 million views, over 7.5 months. can not have a feature with a artist who sells more than them...sells out 48% of their concerts in the continental us...
like I said I know how this coli shyt works, its rare anyone concedes anything they'll just keep adding on bullshyt so they can be "right"
when this is completely opinion no matter what stance you take.
NO nikka.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT
NO DAMN YOUTUBE VIEWS UNTIL
YA BOY POSTED THIS.
"You may be right but 14m views in a year is a hell of a 'niche' audience"
DUDE COUNTERED THAT THE VID
HAS 14MS BECAUSE YE IS IN IT
AND THATS FACTS.
I CAN GIVE 2 shytS ABOUT
YOUTUBE VIEWS.
NO nikka.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT
NO DAMN YOUTUBE VIEWS UNTIL
YA BOY POSTED THIS.
"You may be right but 14m views in a year is a hell of a 'niche' audience"
DUDE COUNTERED THAT THE VID
HAS 14MS BECAUSE YE IS IN IT
AND THATS FACTS.
I CAN GIVE 2 shytS ABOUT
YOUTUBE VIEWS.
Man you know I'm not about to continuing going back and forth with you over our opinions so you got it breh.
"Consistently making an impact" =/= "thriving". We aren't talking about the same thing.
Most rappers aren't getting a #1 20 years into their career no matter the circumstances.
And I'm kinda confused what you mean with Twista's career going threw the roof.
"Adrenaline Rush" went plat, "Kamikaze" went plat....he had one gold album after that then that's it.
Same with Com. "Be" sold the same as "Finding Forever".
So nah, I can't say Kanye took these cats to the next level. They had a brief pop in popularity associating with him, that's it. Same with Push and "Daytona", which had the biggest first week of his career. Which brings me to my next point....
ITS DISINGENUOUS TO MENTION
#1 ON BILLBOARD WHEN 55K
CAN GET YOU A NUMBER 1 SPOT
NOWADAYS DEPENDING WHAT TIME
YOU DROPPED.
DUDE HAS DIE HARDS
WHO HAVE SUPPORTED HIM
FOR YRS.
ITS NOT LIKE HE GAINED
A BUNCH OF NEW FANS.
HIS "#1 ALBUM" ACTUALLY
SOLD 22K LESS THAN DAYTONA
"55k can get you a #1 spot" applies to everyone but most rappers aren't getting that 20 years into their career. If at all these days. A lot of these rappers drop and do 20k. And ain't 2 decades deep.
Fred.
Who’s listening to Bling Bling in 2023? Keep It Thoro is a stapleyes, cac.
man, you have some terrible, out of touch takes.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Take Jim out the equation because he's a loser riding dikk for a feature....
Someone could easily show me a list of 50 rappers without Pusha and I'd be fine with it. And someone could show me a list of 50 rappers with Pusha and I'd be fine with that too. Point being to me the real question is who HAS to be on the list, and whose lack of presence wouldn't bother you at all. Kool G Rap has to be on the list. Common has to be on the list. Big Boi has to be on the list. Am I gonna immediately notice or object if Fab isn't on that list? What about OC, an undeniably dope rapper. If he's not on there am I gonna freak out? Hell what if Inspecta Deck isn't on the list, would I personally throw a red flag? No.
50 isn't a lot of people. It's one rapper per year hip hop has existed. And by the time you add pioneers and must-have rappers you aren't left with too many open spots.
Someone could easily show me a list of 50 rappers without Pusha and I'd be fine with it. And someone could show me a list of 50 rappers with Pusha and I'd be fine with that too. Point being to me the real question is who HAS to be on the list, and whose lack of presence wouldn't bother you at all. Kool G Rap has to be on the list. Common has to be on the list. Big Boi has to be on the list. Am I gonna immediately notice or object if Fab isn't on that list? What about OC, an undeniably dope rapper. If he's not on there am I gonna freak out? Hell what if Inspecta Deck isn't on the list, would I personally throw a red flag? No.
50 isn't a lot of people. It's one rapper per year hip hop has existed. And by the time you add pioneers and must-have rappers you aren't left with too many open spots.
spliz
SplizThaDon
This is basically how I feel.
