Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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Just gon' leave this here, plenty of examples of the Knicks worst defender...



Every single time a team runs the high pick and roll against Calderon, the big man is in danger of picking up a foul...every single time. Melo even mentioned that the high pick and roll was all the Cavs ran to close us out.


A highlight video doesn't counter season stats. Got a real rebuttal or nah?
 

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I wouldnt say Mo's a bum, in the cavs games ive seen hes done a good job of filling in. Hes far from a bum in my opinion

But this caping for Calender has gotta stop. Why do we always get stuck with the worst pg in the league? :scust:

On a more positive note, im fallin in love with Porzingis :wow:

Dont take that the wrong way @BuddyOmar and @Oroko Saki :whoa:

At first I was afraid he might be another Gallinari. I remember Gallo would hit every 3 in practice too. But hes proven me wrong in other ways...his defense and his rebounding are much better then I thought. He moves like a much smaller player on the court, and I dont think hes a liability strength wise anymore like he appeared he would be in the summer league. I dont think he needs to add a whole lot more weight to his frame

As he continues to get more experience his shot will become more consistent. Hes gonna be unguardable with his height and skill set. And the fact that he'll rebound and defend...steals, blocks, help d, altering shots, good lateral movement, ability to defend pick and roll...we have ourselves a complete player. Thats my Styles Pinero :to:

:heh: Thanks for the shoutout, sir.

Thing is, Kristaps is nowhere near the softness/pussiness of Gallinari. Gallinari isn't that bad, but obviously he's a bust. Kristaps has an incredibly high ceiling. Comparing him to gallinari is retarded in the sense that gallinari was more of a swingman to me, Jesus Krist is definitely a stretch forward.
 
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Jose Calderon
ORTG - 86
DRTG - 109

Langston Galloway
ORTG - 138
DRTG - 105

Jerian Grant
ORTG - 110
DRTG - 104

The statistical argument for Calderon being worse on both ends than our two young guards...
Edit: My bad, for those who don't know how these stats work because they're fairly new. ORTG is how much your team scores per 100 possessions while you're out there. DRTG is how much your team is scored on per 100 possessions. High the ORTG the better, lower the DRTG the better. No disrespect to anyone, I just know advanced stats get confusing for heads sometimes.
 

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Galloway is shooting 47% from the field in comparison to Calderon's 27%!

It's not about Calderon not getting the ability to get into his groove because he's playing long stretches and only averaging 5 mins less than Galloway.

Even if you show a dozen videos of potential Galloway defensive lapses...Calderon doesn't have examples you can show...because his whole defensive game is a lapse.

Galloway has actually been a pest on defensive & has made some key defensive stops that I've seen while watching these games.

That alone tells you that Calderon needs to NOT be on the floor while the opposing team's starters are on the floor.

Both of these players have comparable assist rates so you can't argue Calderon is facilitating more. End of the day, Calderon should not be on the floor in the beginning of the 1st, 3rd & 4th quarters.

Is that not a sufficient rebuttal?

Neither Gallo nor Grant are even shooting 45% and even if they were, Gallo's fg% doesn't excuse his poor defense costing NY games. Fact is, he got blown by late and missed a wide open shot late against the Cavs and all y'all talked about is Jose. Gallo has made key defensive lapses that go ignored. Grant didn't score, crickets. Jose's fg% won't stay at 27%, just like 'Melo's won't stay at 37%. Moreoever, Jose's 4 missed shots per game on less than 6 attempts isn't hurting NY. Jose is not costing NY games. Gallo, Grant, Rolo, Kris, and 'Melo are.

Minutes per game alone don't get rid of rust when you've been out that long. You need to play several games with those minutes. Jose and 'Melo will likely need at least 2 more weeks with Arron.

Gallo is averaging less assists in more minutes than Jose. The ball sticks when Jose isn't in. Jose is a better facilitator than d-league Gallo, That's not even a debate. Jose is a vet, a leader, can calm everyone down in close games, and knows how to run the system. Gallo is none of those things.

Your rebuttal was better than the others.
 
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If you sit here and act like Calderon isn't a major issue with this team, then I don't know what to tell you.

Not as much of an issue as those who are playing more minutes, missing more shots, and losing games when Jose isn't in. It's telling that you can't admit that the guy who's taking the most shots and missing almost all of them isn't the real issue.
 
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Jose Calderon
ORTG - 86
DRTG - 109

Langston Galloway
ORTG - 138
DRTG - 105

Jerian Grant
ORTG - 110
DRTG - 104

The statistical argument for Calderon being worse on both ends than our two young guards...
Edit: My bad, for those who don't know how these stats work because they're fairly new. ORTG is how much your team scores per 100 possessions while you're out there. DRTG is how much your team is scored on per 100 possessions. High the ORTG the better, lower the DRTG the better. No disrespect to anyone, I just know advanced stats get confusing for heads sometimes.

That's because Sasha is playing with Jose. Everyone knows that drtg and ortg are like plus/minus stats in that they're dependent on who is on the floor with them:











Now, do you have any stats or anything else to disprove what Ian Begley posted about Kris's fouls or have you give up that narrative? You just posted some unrelated stats as a rebuttal to that.
 
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