Putin sending 63 year old men to war

[BigMoneyGrip]

Haven't been following this but if what yall saying is true, we're witnessing a change in geopolitics. If Russia lose a war to Ukraine their reputation as a big dog is over! And that will only leave America and China.

Russia already lost but once it’s officially over and Putin is out of the paint trust that energy and manufacturing will shift to Ukraine as the west will help build back the country while permanently leaving Russia in complete shambles… Once Ukraine gets nato membership it’s a wrap for russia and any sort of aggression and China will kindly move into Russia and take parts of their land for expansion

 

[fact]

America is sending women and trannys…

You are pretty much saying that women and trannys are more capable, and in better physical and mental shape than you. lol, are you fukking 12? Edgelord shyt.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

putin strategy is for the winter

Well his offensive when it first started was the winter time and the Russian army got the shyt beat out of them

 

[Carl Tethers]

Bloc man is absolutely fewminnn

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

1) Tell me how large is the Russian Army if you don't believe it's 1m . It was 1.2m before the war and they lost at most 100k troops and I'm speaking solely on combat personnel , the actual armed forces including reservist that recently had service in the last 3 years is like double that (2m-ish). Prove me wrong.

The goal, according to Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu, is to grow the Russian army from its current authorized strength of 900,000 troops to 1.4 million, starting next year.

They got almost got a million on paper.

Russia Is About To Draft 300,000 New Troops. It Won’t Be Able To Train Them.

2) primarily Russia mechanized equipment is for defense this is basic; anyone with any military background or intel background or russian intel background knows this.

You are bugging. Howitzers, Tanks, HIMARS...you are trying to tell me that these are strictly defensive pieces of equipment?

To think Russia used all or anything above 60% of it's equipment into Ukraine leaving their homeland without proper defenses is ridiculous and only a complete idiot would entertain an idea. Prove me wrong.

From July:

Russia Sends Pacific Island ‘Machine Gun Artillery Division’ To Ukraine

Russia may have stripped away a substantial portion of its Kuril Island garrison near Japan to serve as assault troops in Ukraine—a role those soldiers weren’t equipped to perform.

www.forbes.com

On a side note, I think that Putin is going to start taking air defense systems from St. Petersburg and moving them to the frontline soon.

why else would they send potentially untrained and aging troops to defend land they stole in Ukraine? Make it make sense.

I can't and neither can you. You just made my point.

You called this more bloc babble - but Russia has cut of oil supplies and severely limited pipelines into Europe - coming into the winter. For what reason? again make it make sense. Do you even keep up with the international economy?

What point are you trying to make here?

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

You're sadly mistaken. Breh I've worked on secret military projects. They are not going to fight each other. They are going to fight the West.

I thought you were a truck driver

 

[Maquina]

They got almost got a million on paper.

Russia Is About To Draft 300,000 New Troops. It Won’t Be Able To Train Them.

You are bugging. Howitzers, Tanks, HIMARS...you are trying to tell me that these are strictly defensive pieces of equipment?


From July:

Russia Sends Pacific Island ‘Machine Gun Artillery Division’ To Ukraine

Russia may have stripped away a substantial portion of its Kuril Island garrison near Japan to serve as assault troops in Ukraine—a role those soldiers weren’t equipped to perform.

www.forbes.com

On a side note, I think that Putin is going to start taking air defense systems from St. Petersburg and moving them to the frontline soon.

I can't and neither can you. You just made my point.


What point are you trying to make here?

1) I asked you to disprove they had 1m in troops. You said I was lying , this is easily looked up . and I assume you've done so and realized you were wrong , yet you won't admit it? Pretty poor form on your end

2) So you think they moved all their Howitzer, Tanks, HIMARS to the front lines in Russia and now Russia is defenseless? LMFAO

The only research you posted (after googling for the past hour) is that they moved MACHINE GUN ARTILLERY division from the "PACIFIC ISLANDS"

Thus the 18th MGAD was equipped for a purely static, defensive role with heavy weapons in fixed positions overlooking potential beaches for an amphibious attack, and just enough personnel to man them. With just 3,500 troops, the unit has roughly one-third or one-fourth the total personnel of an ordinary division.

this is a quote from the article you posted that you didnt even read obviously. That battalion was insignificant and they didn't even move the equipment off that beach. So not only was the article insignificant to what you're trying to prove, there's first hand accounts ...it's like the Russian soldier knew you were going to post something stupid and ensured they got a first hand account of how wrong you were.

UPDATED: An interview of a captured Russian soldier based in the Kuriles indicates at least one (under-strength) company with 94 personnel out of a claimed garrison of 500 troops, presumably from either the 18th Division’s 49th Regiment or its HQ, deployed to Ukraine in June.


The soldier in question claims to have officially been a specialist operator of an SBR-3 ground surveillance radar, but had never used the equipment which was not transported to Ukraine. His company traveled to Ukraine by military cargo plane over five days (transfers: Iturup-Khabarovsk-Amur-Irkutsk-Omsk-Belgorod) and received a special pay raise of $56 per day in Ukraine.

Upon arriving in June 9, his unit waited several days for ground transportation, during which he claims 20 personnel were wounded or killed by “pretty accurate” Ukrainian artillery fire. He was then dispatched into the village of Krasnopillia (northwest of Siversk and Sloviansk), where his subunit of 20 soldiers was told await reinforcements in a cramped basement. His unit waited there for five days under terrifying artillery fire, subsisting on dry rations and food preserves in the cellar, without any officers. “It was clear in the end we would all be killed,” he stated.

do you even know where the Kuril islands are located? It's OFFSHORE from Russia. Again prove that Russia moved all it's mechanized vehicles into Ukraine or a majority of them

 

[Chrishaune]

I thought you were a truck driver

I'm in my 30s and I've had multiple jobs. That's what people do.

I started out doing something completely different. I have a degree in computer animation.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Again prove that Russia moved all it's mechanized vehicles into Ukraine or a majority of them

I never made this claim. Please don't attempt to strawman me.

 

[IIVI]

It's crazy when you think about it: Kyiv is a ~10 hour drive from Moscow.

That's like sending old folks from Lake Tahoe to Los Angeles or NYC to Charlotte to go fight in a war.

 

[Maquina]

I never made this claim. Please don't attempt to strawman me.

I made the claim that they haven’t moved at least 60% of their mechanized vehicles and you argued against that. I’m not strawmanning - that was your stance don’t play this game

You also said they didn’t have 1m troops still and i have yet to see any proof from your end supporting your positions

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I made the claim that they haven’t moved at least 60% of their mechanized vehicles and you argued against that. I’m not strawmanning - that was your stance don’t play this game

You also said they didn’t have 1m troops still and i have yet to see any proof from your end supporting your positions

Ok, so you're the only one of the two of us talking about 60% of anything. I don't know where you are pulling this number from but please stop waving it in my face as if it means anything. And as for Russia's Million Man Army, yeah...I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime, I too have a million man army just waiting for the right time to use. Just wait and see.

 

[Maquina]

Ok, so you're the only one of the two of us talking about 60% of anything. I don't know where you are pulling this number from but please stop waving it in my face as if it means anything. And as for Russia's Million Man Army, yeah...I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime, I too have a million man army just waiting for the right time to use. Just wait and see.

So that’s your mea-cupla

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

So that’s your mea-cupla

You are the one making wild claims. The responsibility is upon you to back them up.

Anyway, Russia has like 4 SU35s and they are handmade.
Rape of conscripts by officers is ramped.
China getting ready to absorb the East and India smells blood in the water.
No winter gear for conscripts.
Putin is micromanaging the war.

Mea culpa deez nutz.

 

[Leasy]

Russia already lost but once it’s officially over and Putin is out of the paint trust that energy and manufacturing will shift to Ukraine as the west will help build back the country while permanently leaving Russia in complete shambles… Once Ukraine gets nato membership it’s a wrap for russia and any sort of aggression and China will kindly move into Russia and take parts of their land for expansion

I been saying this on the coli for years. Putin hate for Americs blinded his ass about China. They licking their chops about Russia. China is all about expansion. Dude is probably one of the worst leaders in this Era and go down in history as such. He hasn't done shyt since being in power but poke at America.