Q-Tip blacking on Iggy Azalea rn on twitter

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I don't really pay attention to news/media anymore. I've heard this broads name a few times but I honestly couldn't recognize her music or anything.

Can anyone tell me the issue with her that keeps her name getting brought up in 140 characters or less?
 

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I may be naive but a music genre can't be restricted to people from a specific background. Music is free, and worldwide, hip-hop as movement and rap as a musical genre is globally done by people from every ethnic background, not just black people.

For example, in Europe, rap (and its local derivatives) is a music made by people living in the poor conditions because it's a medium that helps express themselves. Obviously, there is a majority (slight, in my opinion but I have no studies to back that up) of Black people making it but there is a non negligible proportion of non-black people doing it because it's a music genre that doesn't appeal to a complexion but to a socio-economical group of people. In France, there are plenty of Arab and White people making it alongside Black people and it's not a problem here.

Though I understand that this Azelia girl is an industrial product with a fake ass, fake accent, fake skills, fake rep etc. I don't think, one should point that she shouldn't make rap solely because she's white but simply because she's wack. She should have been ran out from her lack of skills which was enough alone to strip her from whatever pass she had.


The problem here is that Iggy is making some sort ofa mockery of the art(think fatal bazooka and the pos michael youn) and has said some borderline racist shyt and she's still acting like her shyt doesnt stink.
 

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I may be naive but a music genre can't be restricted to people from a specific background. Music is free, and worldwide, hip-hop as movement and rap as a musical genre is globally done by people from every ethnic background, not just black people.

For example, in Europe, rap (and its local derivatives) is a music made by people living in the poor conditions because it's a medium that helps express themselves. Obviously, there is a majority (slight, in my opinion but I have no studies to back that up) of Black people making it but there is a non negligible proportion of non-black people doing it because it's a music genre that doesn't appeal to a complexion but to a socio-economical group of people. In France, there are plenty of Arab and White people making it alongside Black people and it's not a problem here.

Though I understand that this Azelia girl is an industrial product with a fake ass, fake accent, fake skills, fake rep etc. I don't think, one should point that she shouldn't make rap solely because she's white but simply because she's wack. She should have been ran out from her lack of skills which was enough alone to strip her from whatever pass she had.

I agree with all parts of the post except this! The booty is all real.

But yeah, people need to realise rap has expanded everywhere. I agree she isn't really "thorough" in regards to some of the stuff shes been saying though. Im no fan of her music, just of her pale big white butt.
 

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Just dropping in for a sec. Keep seeing a mention in this thread about how Iggy is claiming that her and Macklemore are the king and queen of hip-hop.

Had me like, "I don't recall that ever happening..."

So let's clear that up right quick (though it's fun to be angry and enjoy fukkery like this) to be accurate...



This is the tweet you're referring to. It's been used in articles from Vox and Buzzfeed, hence why people have seen it and are referencing it.

The problem with Twitter and social media (ESPECIALLY lately, it seems) is that people see things at a glance and run with it. A lot of times, I'll see things from Twitter posted here on the Coli and you'll have brehs going, "I have no idea what's going on in this conversation." :dwillhuh:

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This is the person that made the tweet. Their Twitter handle is @atlantakilos. They're an Iggy Azalea fan. On Twitter, you can put give yourself a display name to go along with your Twitter handle. Some people use the same name. @LupeFiasco is Lupe Fiasco. @IggyAzalea is Iggy Azalea. @Wale is Wale Folarin

You can make that name whatever you want it to be, but your Twitter handle is the one with the @ in front of it.

Anyhow, this whole post kind of brings up another interesting point. Everyone's applauding Tip for calling her out and there are people going "Yeah...it's time to get her out of here and out of hip-hop", etc, etc. :camby: :pacspit:

That's all well and good, but are people just typing in hypotheticals or what? Where exactly is she going to go? Is this wrestling where the loser leaves town? Is she going to go, "You know what guys? This is all too much. I'm sorry. I'll quit making music now." :wowwow:

How are people on The Coli or hip-hop OG's/"true hip-hop fans" supposed to stop her wave when the people buying her music are probably oblivious to this entire situation? There are hundreds of thousands of chicks and guys (like the dude above) who aren't looking any further than their radio or the club, bumping "Fancy" and "Black Widow" on their iPods over & over again. Q-Tip went on that long rant and you know what Iggy's tweeted in the last 22 hours?



She's headlining a tour coming up in 2015. That's what her fans see. (Fancy?) Don't even ask me how. :skip: Maybe the energy is better directed at a T.I. or the folks at Universal if you want to "get her out of hip-hop"...whatever that means.
 

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This is ridiculous at this point. I agree with the points that Q-Tip and Lupe Fiasco made, but posters are turning this into something it's not. At the same time, Iggy is being made more significant than she actually is. It's crazy that people go out of their way to diss her, but then contradict it by saying "well, she's not even Hip Hop". If she isn't Hip Hop, why are we even discussing her? If she's a Pop artist, then why is it that she's being discussed at length on Hip Hop message boards. Then posters point to the fact that she's nominated in the Rap categories at the Grammys, but the same people say the Grammys don't matter either. Oh, she got a #1 hit, but the Billboards don't matter either. Ya'll sit here and talk about CACs this and CAC's that, but you let them dictate the direction of the culture by letting their reviews and award shows influence how you feel about an artist. Even though it's not influencing admiration, you still use their views to shape your opinion of an artist.

In reality, it isn't these artists who are appropriating anything, it's the media and a lot of times, ya'll help them by adding validity to their claims.
 

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Just dropping in for a sec. Keep seeing a mention in this thread about how Iggy is claiming that her and Macklemore are the king and queen of hip-hop.

Had me like, "I don't recall that ever happening..."

So let's clear that up right quick (though it's fun to be angry and enjoy fukkery like this) to be accurate...



This is the tweet you're referring to. It's been used in articles from Vox and Buzzfeed, hence why people have seen it and are referencing it.

The problem with Twitter and social media (ESPECIALLY lately, it seems) is that people see things at a glance and run with it. A lot of times, I'll see things from Twitter posted here on the Coli and you'll have brehs going, "I have no idea what's going on in this conversation." :dwillhuh:

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This is the person that made the tweet. Their Twitter handle is @atlantakilos. They're an Iggy Azalea fan. On Twitter, you can put give yourself a display name to go along with your Twitter handle. Some people use the same name. @LupeFiasco is Lupe Fiasco. @IggyAzalea is Iggy Azalea. @Wale is Wale Folarin

You can make that name whatever you want it to be, but your Twitter handle is the one with the @ in front of it.

Anyhow, this whole post kind of brings up another interesting point. Everyone's applauding Tip for calling her out and there are people going "Yeah...it's time to get her out of here and out of hip-hop", etc, etc. :camby: :pacspit:

That's all well and good, but are people just typing in hypotheticals or what? Where exactly is she going to go? Is this wrestling where the loser leaves town? Is she going to go, "You know what guys? This is all too much. I'm sorry. I'll quit making music now." :wowwow:

How are people on The Coli or hip-hop OG's/"true hip-hop fans" supposed to stop her wave when the people buying her music are probably oblivious to this entire situation? There are hundreds of thousands of chicks and guys (like the dude above) who aren't looking any further than their radio or the club, bumping "Fancy" and "Black Widow" on their iPods over & over again. Q-Tip went on that long rant and you know what Iggy's tweeted in the last 22 hours?



She's headlining a tour coming up in 2015. That's what her fans see. (Fancy?) Don't even ask me how. :skip: Maybe the energy is better directed at a T.I. or the folks at Universal if you want to "get her out of hip-hop"...whatever that means.


:whew:
 

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Some of y'all are hilarious... :pachaha: seriously. Reminds me of Robin Harris in 'Do the Right Thing'... "you muhufkkas talkin all this ol' Keith Sweat shyt, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that... y'all ain't gonna do a muhufkkin' thing, but sit y'all black ass on this corner like you been doin'"

All this "we need to take this woman out of hip-hop, we need to do this, we need to go at the companies"... over a virtual one hit wonder who might not ever have a hit single again is both pretentious and corny. Cause most of the people postin' on this revolutionary shyt ain't about to do nothin' but complain and type out long ass posts on why hip-hop is SUDDENLY being commercialized and misused and why we need to "take it back to when it was ours"... all while reminiscing on the years during which we gave it to the rest of the world in the first place. The problem is not that she's white and rappin', or that she's from another country and rappin'... and it's not her fault that media has pumped her up to be 1000 times better than she is for those reasons, cause that's what they do and been doing since the Beastie Boys... the problem is her arrogance and lack of recognizing what peoples' issue is with such arrogance.

And honestly, I don't even think Tip's motive was to "go in" on her like some of y'all seem to think. The dude explained in a rational manner why she misses the point as to why she's being accused of appropriation, and how being from outside of the States, maybe she's just not getting what hip-hop and its history CULTURALLY means to us. I think dude was dead on-point with what he said and how broke it down... honestly, there's a lot of artists white AND black who need to read that shyt.
 
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