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Max Payne was the first cover based cinematic action 3rd person shooter.

Siphon filter and tomb raider don't fit that description.

I didn't say it can't be bought up.


Great


Didn't try to discredit anything. I never argued about which game started the "button to stick to cover" mechanic. It's great that winback is a good game.

Max payne started the idea of "cinematic 3rd person shooter games" that's all I said from jump

Breh.

You straight up said that max payne was the first cover based cinematic action third person shooter.

Then when presented with the fact that winback was truly the first cover based, cinematic third person shooter, you downplayed it and said no one knew what the fukk it was. Now that a couple people have said they played and can vouch for these facts, your saying that max payne, made the idea popular.

Why you keep moving the goalpost?


Edit: and winback didnt just incorporate the cover mechanic first, play the game and you'll see how it plays exactly like an early build of the tps of today.

If you played both max payne 1 and winback back to back right now, its winback that would feel the most similar
 

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I cant wait for more nikkas to own both consoles so these broke nikkas can stop this annoying ass stan war shyt in every thread.
You don't need to own both systems to not be stanning. I owned a 360 last gen and still thought PS3>>>.

I think Sunset OVerdrive looks piff.

The arguments in here had nothing to do with this game too but started off with dude going "Remedy>>>>>>>>>>>Naughty Dog" which is factually incorrect. Y'all can get mad or not but I ain't letting shyt like that slide round here :sas2:.
 

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im not feeling the effects when hes using that time shiit on objects and people


but the gunplay:ooh:
 

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Breh.

You straight up said that max payne was the first cover based cinematic action third person shooter.

Then when presented with the fact that winback was truly the first cover based, cinematic third person shooter, you downplayed it and said no one knew what the fukk it was. Now that a couple people have said they played and can vouch for these facts, your saying that max payne, made the idea popular.

Why you keep moving the goalpost?


Edit: and winback didnt just incorporate the cover mechanic first, play the game and you'll see how it plays exactly like an early build of the tps of today.

If you played both max payne 1 and winback back to back right now, its winback that would feel the most similar

Didn't move any goalposts. Y'all have fond memories of winback.

Good for y'all. Fact of the mater is winback isn't viewed as the originator of this style of game. Max Payne is. That's it
 

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Didn't move any goalposts. Y'all have fond memories of winback.

Good for y'all. Fact of the mater is winback isn't viewed as the originator of this style of game. Max Payne is. That's it
Still wrong but :cook:.

I've never heard anyone online or off mention Max Payne as originator of TPS games. Most likely to be mentioned is Gears of War 1 or Resident Evil 4. Let's not be disingenuous now. It's just not a popular opinion. :manny:
 

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Can't fukking believe y'all trying to say this is more representative of modern shooters than max payne

Really? :what:

Y'all really trying to say winback was anything like this



I can't fukk with you nikkas man.

From the way the story plays out, to the controls, to the way the character moves max payne is the blueprint for modern cinematic shooters.
 

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Can't fukking believe y'all trying to say this is more representative of modern shooters than max payne

Really? :what:

Y'all really trying to say winback was anything like this



I can't fukk with you nikkas man.

From the way the story plays out, to the controls, to the way the character moves max payne is the blueprint for modern cinematic shooters.


This is what you said:
Gears wouldn't exist without max Payne.

Max Payne started this bout it bout it shyt :birdman:

Max Payne was the first cover based cinematic action 3rd person shooter.

Siphon filter and tomb raider don't fit that description.
Now you're creating a strawman. You know damn well the argument was what was first and several people agreed that Winback and others came before Max Payne. Winback fits the criteria for being a tps that has cinematic elements(voice acting, cutscenes, story.)

Now in an attempt to move the goalpost you're now claiming we said Winback is more representative of modern shooters than max. Of course it wouldn't be representative as newer games would feature refined gameplay mechanics. Max Payne isn't representative of modern shooters either because most modern shooters have dedicated cover systems which the OG max payne didn't have. Max Payne according to you is a "sub-genre" of third person shooters so how can it be representative of a larger genre? :what:

I can't fukk with you nikkas man :troll:.

Just call a spade a spade.

What's next?? You're going to claim Forza Horizon revolutionized open world racing and that it started this bout it bout it shyt? :troll:
Ole "b-b-but it's a sub-genre :sadcam:".

Ryse is a sub genre of hack and slashers :troll:??

Is Titanfall a sub genre of fps's?? :troll:

I can't fukk with you nikkas man :troll:.
 

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Now you're creating a strawman. You know damn well the argument was what was first and several people agreed that Winback and others came before Max Payne.
Now in an attempt to move the goalpost you're now claiming we said Winback is more representative of modern shooters than max. Of course it wouldn't be representative as newer games would feature refined gameplay mechanics. Max Payne isn't representative of modern shooters either because most modern shooters have dedicated cover systems which the OG max payne didn't have. Max Payne according to you is a "sub-genre" of third person shooters so how can it be representative of a larger genre? :what:

I can't fukk with you nikkas man :troll:.

fukk outa here with the circle talk nikka. Obviously the game came out first but is absolutely nothing like modern shooters and the cover mechanic isn't even the same. That's just some shyt y'all pulled from nostalgia/Wikipedia to bring up.

Max payne was the first game to tell the story through monologues from the main character or things you find in the environment. It's the first to attempt blend the cutscenes and interactive parts in a seamless way. It's one of the first tps with a manual aiming system. Dual wielding. strafing, cinematic angles during fire fights. It's the first tps where the developers goal was to make it feel like you were playing though a movie. Max payne laid the groundwork for all of that.

Really don't know what's wrong with you nikkas :snoop:
 

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fukk outa here with the circle talk nikka.
:whoa: Calm down breh.
Obviously the game came out first but
But nothing. It came out first and that's that. That's all we saying. All that extra mumbo jumbo you talking about is irrelevant. Stick to the original topic and stop putting words in our mouths.
is absolutely nothing like modern shooters and the cover mechanic isn't even the same. That's just some shyt y'all pulled from nostalgia/Wikipedia to bring up.
:what:
Of course games nowadays have different cover systems/shooting mechanics as each game isn't made by the same dev. :mindblown:. Are you reading the stuff you're typing?? Max Payne is absolutely nothing like Resident Evil 4 which is absolutely nothing like Gears of War 1 which is absolutely nothing like Vanquish which isn't like Uncharted etc. Earlier you wanted to separate each game into it's own distinctive sub genre and now you're trying to make Max Payne representative of modern shooters as if they all play the same. Is Halo representative of Killzone? :troll:


Max payne was the first game to tell the story through monologues from the main character or things you find in the environment. It's the first to attempt blend the cutscenes and interactive parts in a seamless way. It's one of the first tps with a manual aiming system.
:mindblown: THe fukk are you talking about?? What's the point in rambling on about the way the game tells it's story or how the gun handling works?? That doesn't change the fact that winback was here first. Whether you think Max Payne is better is your opinion but talking about what game was better is irrelevant.

"first tps with a manual aiming system." :mjlol:
So Oni didn't have a manual aiming system? :snoop: My goodness.

Dual wielding. strafing, cinematic angles during fire fights. It's the first tps where the developers goal was to make it feel like you were playing though a movie. Max payne laid the groundwork for all of that.
:snooze:

Really don't know what's wrong with you nikkas :snoop:
The pot calling the kettle black.

:snooze:

Breh it's clear your fanboy glasses have you spouting nonsense. It's alright breh.
I'm done here.
:whew:
 
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